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Moorside Station closed for 'foreseeable future'
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https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...21/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=pax-calls&order=wtt suggests that there are three passenger calls today, the first of which (only one in the past at time of writing) appears to have called. Is this likely to have happened?
Kite159
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At least Swinton station is less than 10 minutes away by foot so any potential passengers have an alternative
Bletchleyite
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It doesn't help, and didn't in the case of long-lost Pendleton either, that these stations are designed in a manner where there's no access other than via the ticket office. Bletchley would be similarly encumbered in the event of a fire or similar, though unlike the Atherton line stations you could knock through the fence by the bike racks as a temporary access.
With sufficient will, a hole in the wall and a temporary staircase would be enough to offer a short-term solution. Although, in this case, I can see it going the same way as Pendlebury and closing for good.
If the ticket office doesn't reopen demolition will happen at some point anyway, so the extra cost of keeping the station open would just be the temporary staircase. It does look a station likely to go the way of Pendlebury, Clifton, Ardwick though, being right next to one of the most frequent bus corridors in the city and having an average of about 1 passenger per train at the last estimate.
Similar also happened at Moses Gate, but it survives to this day.
Bletchleyite
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They rebuilt South Hampstead, or was it Kilburn High Road, when the same thing happened, removing the building and adding a metal staircase. I did say hardly anyone used it but it's surprisingly popular.
Demolition of the booking office and installing a single metal staircase to the island platform would be fairly cheap so I'd imagine they will do that.
It's probably poorly used due to the low frequency, which could be sorted out.
There just isn't the demand to justify slowing down other services to stop there. I work with people who live in Moorside/Walkden and none of them will even countenance the idea of commuting into the city centre by train. Buses are cheaper, more frequent, more convenient, have WiFi and charging sockets, and turn up reliably and on time. When bus franchising comes along, I'd predict demand for rail services in the area will fall even further.
Much as it sticks in the throat to say it, if the station were permanently closed - or perhaps closed pending conversion of the line to tram/train operations - I can't imagine very many people would miss it.
Apparently they have put up new signs on the burnt-out building!
This is part of a new signage roll-out by TfGM.
Also there is an hourly RRB to Swinton.
Anyone wanting to use this service I suggest turning up early to guarantee a seat on the RRB.
This is part of a new signage roll-out by TfGM.
Also there is an hourly RRB to Swinton.
Anyone wanting to use this service I suggest turning up early to guarantee a seat on the RRB.
Momo and diggy
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Plenty of people use the train from walkden to Manchester, takes about 15 to 20 minutes whilst the bus can take about an hour.
Apparently they have put up new signs on the burnt-out building!
This is part of a new signage roll-out by TfGM.
Also there is an hourly RRB to Swinton.
Anyone wanting to use this service I suggest turning up early to guarantee a seat on the RRB.
Its worse than that, the new signs were part of a 1 million pound refurbishment. The ticket office was absolutely in mint condition. Only lasted one week!
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What is the point of the replacement bus service from Swinton as by the time you got on waited to depart and then the journey time would it not be quicker to walk?
Not everyone is able to walk....
The RRB didn't seem to exist when I turned up the other day!
Gave up and ended up walking to Swinton.
Sam
From Walkden itself, yes. Once you get more than a short walk from the station, though (which is most of the area to be honest) it's a very different story. Bus+train is a very expensive way to travel compared to just the bus, even if it is slightly slower.
Yes I know its only just been refurbished and I dont know how busy Moorside actually is as a Station but does anyone know how long Moorside is actually going to be shut for? And why work hasn't started to get the Station open again? Unless their planning on knocking down the building now and just having steps and a ticket machine on the platform instead
The short answer to that, from what I've heard, is no. I imagine that there'll be a row over whether it's the fault of the contractor who did the refurbishment, or Northern, and therefore who should cough up. And that's before an insurance company gets involved. None of which is going to speed anything up.
I rather suspect, as I said earlier, it may just be closed. Or, any proper sorting out of the issues delayed until a decision is announced about the future of Northern services on the route in the next few months.
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It's the fault of the arsonists who trashed it and set fire to it...
It wasn't arson, at least according to the fire service. Fire started inside the locked and shuttered ticket office.
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Does anyone know what actually caused the fire then?
I don't think anything's been said publically since the initial, "we're looking into it but don't think it was foul play," statement.
I mean, locked building, fire in the middle of the night, electrical fault has got to be high on the list, but that's pure speculation.
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The fire service statement in the OP says they believe it to be possible deliberate ignition.
The initial report said the fire was deliberate. Have things changed?
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...n-station-remain-closed-foreseeable-17781280c
EDIT: Oops, just pipped at the post.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...n-station-remain-closed-foreseeable-17781280c
EDIT: Oops, just pipped at the post.
I'm going from info received in work.
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I've heard from a friend who works for Northern that images were circulated amongst circles of staff of the inside of the building post fire and it's clear that it's been deliberately trashed, then set fire to.
Bletchleyite
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If they can't manage to close Polesworth I doubt they will manage to close this. The easiest fix would probably be to demolish the ticket office, install a metal staircase and reopen as an unstaffed station.
When I covered there, there was about 30 to 40 passengers through in the morning peak. After 9 you were lucky to see another soul for the rest of the shift. It's about 15 mins walk to Swinton station so I presume any of the affected passengers will be just boarding there. The clerk who covers Moorside is currently at Hag Fold till they work out what to do.
Really I can't see the office reopening. TfGM would do well to put a cabin up at Mills Hill and move the guy there instead of wasting money at Moorside.
Just as a quick edit New Mills Central was also burnt out and from what I remember it was nearly three years before the ticket office reopened once all the insurance claims and work to reopen the place had happened. The damage was no where near as bad as Moorside so make it what you will.
Really I can't see the office reopening. TfGM would do well to put a cabin up at Mills Hill and move the guy there instead of wasting money at Moorside.
Just as a quick edit New Mills Central was also burnt out and from what I remember it was nearly three years before the ticket office reopened once all the insurance claims and work to reopen the place had happened. The damage was no where near as bad as Moorside so make it what you will.
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