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Martin2012 · 13 Mar 2020

Just seen the new timetable for the Faresaver service from Bath to Devizes and see that there is no evening service to Urchfont anymore with all journeys terminating at Devizes.

Does this suggest that this section of route is sparsely used in the evening?

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freetoview33 · 13 Mar 2020

Martin2012 said:
Just seen the new timetable for the Faresaver service from Bath to Devizes and see that there is no evening service to Urchfont anymore with all journeys terminating at Devizes.

Does this suggest that this section of route is sparsely used in the evening?

Or wiltshire Council not wanting to pay for it

-Colly405- · 13 Mar 2020

carlberry said:
It's part of the roman name for Bath; from Wikipedia:
The city became a spa with the Latin name Aquae Sulis ("the waters of Sul") c. 60 AD when the Romans built baths and a temple in the valley of the River Avon, although hot springs were known even before then.

A couple of years later the Romans started using the number CCCXXX1X to describe the chariot route between Bristol and Bath.

Indeed, aquae is the plural of aqua.

Martin2012 · 13 Mar 2020

freetoview33 said:
Or wiltshire Council not wanting to pay for it

Do Wiltshire Council fund these journeys then? Always assumed they were commercial

carlberry · 13 Mar 2020

carlberry said:
One Lynx, one Red and two Green at Avonmouth this morning.

Avonmouth this evening appeared to hold One Lynx, two Reds, however no Green gas buses.

DaveHarries · 13 Mar 2020

carlberry said:
A couple of years later the Romans started using the number CCCXXX1X to describe the chariot route between Bristol and Bath.

Dave

AB93 · 13 Mar 2020

carlberry said:
Avonmouth this evening appeared to hold One Lynx, two Reds, however no Green gas buses.

There's definitely green ones there! Just hidden away..

TheGrandWazoo · 13 Mar 2020

Martin2012 said:
Do Wiltshire Council fund these journeys then? Always assumed they were commercial

Really? That First stopped operating to Devizes and Lavingtons except Eve/Sun?

it’s always been tendered AFAIK

carlberry · 13 Mar 2020

AB93 said:
There's definitely green ones there! Just hidden away..

I'd assumed they would be as Lawrence Hill must be heaving at the moment!

TheGrandWazoo · 13 Mar 2020

carlberry said:
I'd assumed they would be as Lawrence Hill must be heaving at the moment!

It certainly is. Withdrawn stuff like 32252 and 66956 there, plus 37014 still fully vinyled (awaiting transfer to Kernow?) knocking around with plenty of SGL gas buses.

martyjon · 13 Mar 2020

Been told the SG LYNKes will be launched at Yate on Monday 16th at 3pm followed by Chipping Sodbury at 4pm.

freetoview33 · 13 Mar 2020

TheGrandWazoo said:
Really? That First stopped operating to Devizes and Lavingtons except Eve/Sun?

it’s always been tendered AFAIK

I will check on the 2000 timetable to see what trips were tendered back then

NorthernSpirit · 13 Mar 2020

Martin2012 said:
Just seen the new timetable for the Faresaver service from Bath to Devizes and see that there is no evening service to Urchfont anymore with all journeys terminating at Devizes. Does this suggest that this section of route is sparsely used in the evening?

freetoview33 said:
Or wiltshire Council not wanting to pay for it

I've looked carefully at the new 271/272/273 timetable and it does say that the Devizes > Urchfont journeys are covered by service 270, however the 270 timetable is not on Faresaver's website.

freetoview33 · 13 Mar 2020

NorthernSpirit said:
I've looked carefully at the new 271/272/273 timetable and it does say that the Devizes > Urchfont journeys are covered by service 270, however the 270 timetable is not on Faresaver's website.

They are still working out the Devizes routes

TheGrandWazoo · 13 Mar 2020

freetoview33 said:
I will check on the 2000 timetable to see what trips were tendered back then

It was tendered in the early 1990s. Fosseway did the evening and Sunday services.

NorthernSpirit · 13 Mar 2020

freetoview33 said:
They are still working out the Devizes routes

It'll be interesting to see what will happen to the 87 and the Trowbridge > Keevil > Devizes services as the 270 will have some affect on them.

BBC · 14 Mar 2020

martyjon said:
Been told the SG LYNKes will be launched at Yate on Monday 16th at 3pm followed by Chipping Sodbury at 4pm.

You taking about the gas buses here ? If you’re it’s the Wednesday the 18th.

AB93 · 14 Mar 2020

martyjon said:
Been told the SG LYNKes will be launched at Yate on Monday 16th at 3pm followed by Chipping Sodbury at 4pm.

BBC said:
You taking about the gas buses here ? If you’re it’s the Wednesday the 18th.

It’s both, the launch/photoshoot etc is Monday, entry into service is Wednesday.

TheGrandWazoo · 14 Mar 2020

NorthernSpirit said:
It'll be interesting to see what will happen to the 87 and the Trowbridge > Keevil > Devizes services as the 270 will have some affect on them.

On Faresaver website “A new service 270 will operate between Devizes and Easterton which will provide connections with both the 272 to Melksham and Bath and the 33/x33 service to Calne and Chippenham. Details of this timetable will be published on our website shortly.”

However, given the layover in Devizes, suggest that the 270 will run off the 271-3 in similar fashion to now.

Bit confused as to why you’d think the 76/77/87 would be affected?

diffywood · 14 Mar 2020

New timetables starting to appear on first website
Here's 1 2 2a

https://www.firstgroup.com/uploads/maps/Service_1_2 Leaflet_WEB.pdf

Whiteway215 · 14 Mar 2020

carlberry said:
It's part of the roman name for Bath; from Wikipedia:
The city became a spa with the Latin name Aquae Sulis ("the waters of Sul") c. 60 AD when the Romans built baths and a temple in the valley of the River Avon, although hot springs were known even before then.

A couple of years later the Romans started using the number CCCXXX1X to describe the chariot route between Bristol and Bath.

Of course in Twertonus on Avonus there's a pub called 'The Centurion' so perhaps that's where the Roman legions stopped off on the way to Bristolus.

vicbury · 14 Mar 2020

If anyone wants a Saturday night treat, there's a B9 on the 42. If only permanently, it really is more comfortable than the gas Scanias.

matt_splat · 14 Mar 2020

i do wonder if the 270 will run off the back of the 33 / x33 as i beleve it does anyway on the outbound trip talks of deckers being used on the Bath - Devizes i would guess the drivers doing the 271/272/273 could then take breaks in Devizes while the other bus heads out and does the other bits maybe

Whiteway215 · 14 Mar 2020

32291 returned to Weston Island depot this morning with bodywork damage each side of entrance doors.

NorthernSpirit · 14 Mar 2020

TheGrandWazoo said:
On Faresaver website “A new service 270 will operate between Devizes and Easterton which will provide connections with both the 272 to Melksham and Bath and the 33/x33 service to Calne and Chippenham. Details of this timetable will be published on our website shortly.”

However, given the layover in Devizes, suggest that the 270 will run off the 271-3 in similar fashion to now.

Bit confused as to why you’d think the 76/77/87 would be affected?

The reason why I think the 76/77/87 would be affected is because they're infrequent but would they interchange with the 270 or could the odd journey run off the 76/77/87 and onto the new 270/271/272/273?

If I fancied the idea of going on a rural pub crawl to Easterton and Urchfont, I'd want to know if I'd make it back without getting stranded.

BBC · 14 Mar 2020

AB93 said:
It’s both, the launch/photoshoot etc is Monday, entry into service is Wednesday.

Ah yes you’re right.
I’m still surprised these aren’t going on the Y2 which is far busier than the Y1...

BBC · 14 Mar 2020

diffywood said:
New timetables starting to appear on first website
Here's 1 2 2a

https://www.firstgroup.com/uploads/maps/Service_1_2 Leaflet_WEB.pdf

That’s a huge increase in frequency for the 2/2a! That’ll really help with centre to stockwood in rush hour and this section is very very busy.

TheGrandWazoo · 14 Mar 2020

NorthernSpirit said:
The reason why I think the 76/77/87 would be affected is because they're infrequent but would they interchange with the 270 or could the odd journey run off the 76/77/87 and onto the new 270/271/272/273?

If I fancied the idea of going on a rural pub crawl to Easterton and Urchfont, I'd want to know if I'd make it back without getting stranded.

Surely, the 76/77/87 being infrequent means they’re less likely to interwork with 270, rather than the 33 or 271-3?

I doubt many if any pub crawls are done around Urchfont and the Lavingtons, esp by bus! If it’s a pub crawl location, then Devizes is the place (and it’s good). Irrespective of the reason for travel, don’t we all want to know we can get back without being stranded.

83G/84D · 14 Mar 2020

AB93 said:
There's definitely green ones there! Just hidden away..

Think I saw one on the M5 southbound this morning just north of Bristol. There was a couple of other Stagecoach Enviro’s following close behind returning south from Cheltenham races.

martyjon · 14 Mar 2020

BBC said:
Ah yes you’re right.
I’m still surprised these aren’t going on the Y2 which is far busier than the Y1...

The Y1 is busy in peaks with standing pax from Hambrook on occasions especially the 065x from my stop, Pitchcombe, and m3 pax transfer to it if they see it waiting at the Willy Wicket traffic lights at the Hambrook stop which saves an appropriate 10 minutes on the journey to the city. The Y2 is hourly also.

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