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Drop in passenger numbers sees train services cut
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MotorcycleAlan
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Assume you mean 23/3 and 30/3 or have they really planned so far ahead?
I'd assume so. Last weekend at Manchester Victoria there was a bloke with a cloth and some spray giving everything a rub down.
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No they def mean 23/3 and 30/3 BUT exact times will not be available until the Sunday night before.
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Northern for Monday has a much larger list:
https://media.northernrailway.co.uk/news/coronavirus-travel-information
Monday 23 March:
All services on the following routes cancelled unless otherwise stated:
- Liverpool – Blackpool
- Blackpool – Manchester Airport
- Liverpool – Manchester Airport
- Liverpool – Wigan now 1 train per hour
- Liverpool – Manchester Oxford Road reduced to 1 train per hour
- Liverpool - Warrington Bank Quay
- Preston – Manchester Victoria
- Morecambe – Lancaster (replacement bus in operation)
- Some cancellations will take place on services from Manchester Piccadilly to the following destinations - Hadfield, Buxton and Rose Hill
- Full Manchester Piccadilly – Stoke (fully cancelled)
- Full Manchester Piccadilly – New Mills (Sheffield services will also stop at Belle Vue, Ryder Brow and Strines)
- Leeds to Harrogate FAST services
- Leeds to Nottingham services (replacement buses to operate Dronfield to Nottingham)
- Leeds to Manchester Victoria cancelled, in addition, all Leeds – Chester services will now start and finish at Manchester Victoria. Manchester Victoria - Leeds via Bradford and Wigan - Leeds via Dewsbury will continue to operate.
- Sheffield to Gainsborough Central (Leeds to Lincoln services will make additional stops along the route)
- Sheffield to Doncaster XX25 departure
- Darlington to Saltburn
- Newcastle to Carlisle FAST services
- Hull to Bridlington (to be served by Scarborough services instead)
- Leeds to Lancaster
- Leeds to Knaresborough XX59 services (leaving the XX29 Leeds to York and LNER Harrogate services)
- Leeds to Sheffield FAST services
- Leeds to Lincoln services to run between Sheffield and Lincoln only
- Huddersfield to Castleford
- Huddersfield to Bradford Interchange
- Sheffield – York Cancelled
- Doncaster to Scunthorpe reduced to two hourly
- Newcastle to Morpeth and Chathill (replacement bus to operate)
- First and last services of the day withdrawn on the Whitby branch
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No service for intermediate stations Kidsgrove - Stockport then?
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1 train per hour Liverpool-Wigan?
wouldn't want to be on that one.
wouldn't want to be on that one.
Are people still using trains up there? Around the south they are absolutely dead except for a handful of key workers.
Or Settle Jn - Carnforth (already happened!)
Oddly no mention of Leeds NW cancellations.
I suspect Northern are struggling to keep on top of rapidly changing situation and staff self isolating.
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Yet the Norwich-Sheringham 'Bittern' line has been almost business as usual for much of this week. Only difference being guards are not doing any revenue duties.
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That would be
Wagon load movements out of British Tissues Tondu and the Medway Valley paper mills must be on the
Blackford spring etc - Buxton might be another one , but road I suspect - of course Evian etc into sunny Neaden was a key flow. Irrelevant really in the big picture.
What's annoying about these cancellations is that it's now 22:00, and I'm yet to know what time I'll get to work in the morning.
I know that my train from Leeds to Manchester in just 8 hours is not on the list of cancelled TPE services, but all I have is that there are going to be cancellations on the lines I can get from there.
Roll on Northern rolling out a proper emergency timetable so I know what trains they can at least aim to run.
I know that my train from Leeds to Manchester in just 8 hours is not on the list of cancelled TPE services, but all I have is that there are going to be cancellations on the lines I can get from there.
Roll on Northern rolling out a proper emergency timetable so I know what trains they can at least aim to run.
Chiltern are slashing services to just 4tph ex-Marylebone from Monday, rather than the usual 10 off-peak. Full details at https://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/coronavirus but to summarise:
During peak times Monday to Friday, an additional two trains per hour will run:
NB: As per the base timetable, Sudbury & Harrow Road will only be served Southbound in the morning peak and Northbound in the evening peak.
- 1tph Marylebone - Aylesbury Vale Parkway via Amersham
- 1tph Marylebone - Aylesbury via High Wycombe calling all stations except the Sudburys
- 1tph Marylebone - High Wycombe - Princes Risborough - Haddenham & Thame Parkway - Bicester North - Banbury - Leamington Spa - Warwick - Warwick Parkway - Dorridge - Solihull - Birmingham Moor Street
- 1tph Marylebone - Gerrards Cross - Beaconsfield - High Wycombe - Haddenham & Thame Parkway - Bicester Village - Oxford Parkway - Oxford
- 1tp2h Leamington Spa - Warwick - Hatton - Claverdon (SuX) - Bearley (SuX) - Wilmcote - Stratford-upon-Avon Parkway - Stratford-upon-Avon
During peak times Monday to Friday, an additional two trains per hour will run:
- 1tph Marylebone - Wembley Stadium - Sudbury & Harrow Road - Sudbury Hill Harrow - South Ruislip - Denham - Gerrards Cross - Beaconsfield - High Wycombe
- 1tph Marylebone - Aylesbury via Amersham
NB: As per the base timetable, Sudbury & Harrow Road will only be served Southbound in the morning peak and Northbound in the evening peak.
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Are there any stations that will get a better service than normal during emergency timetable operation?
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GTR plans (basically Sat next week, then Sun thereafter - with amended start / finish times) are shown in a banner on the home page for each brand eg Thameslink https://www.thameslinkrailway.com/
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The sole Avanti service from Holyhead is the "peak" 0551 to Euston and the 1710 return.
Amazingly (from RTT) it originates from Crewe and is ECS to/from Holyhead to form these services.
The single Euston-Chester is at 1030 and 1435 return.
RTT isn't yet showing the Birmingham-Chester Avanti service, but it's on Avanti's web site.
The new Avanti timetable doesn't connect at all well with TfW's Sunday timetable, and there will be long waits at Crewe and Chester for North Wales.
The TfW LHCS services seem to have gone.
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According to their website Northern are supposedly running an emergency timetable from Tuesday, but as yet there's no details on what this will be
My guess on the Avanti Voyager running is route knowledge retention which gives an indication of how long they think this is going to last.
I'm surprised they have enough staff to run a Saturday timetable. South Western Railway are running a timetable similar to that of the strike.
I would imagine some of those on the Salisbury to Basingstoke line might as I think they did during the strike timetable.
On a wider note. The problem with not providing services to some smaller stations is rhat key workers might be living there and maybe they are using those stations to get to their work place.
I do appreciate this is all last minute but if they can make changes overtime, maybe they could reintroduce some services and decrease the frequency of others.
Worcester Shrub Hill will be getting more West Midlands Trains services than usual because most of the services via Foregate St will also reverse there from Monday.
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TPE will be re-joining the stoppers either side of Huddersfield. Hull reduced to a shuttle to Leeds on most services (interestingly the first of the day in both directions runs through to/from Piccadilly serving most shacks between Leeds and Stalybridge).
Only 2tph off-peak between Huddersfield and Leeds... and they're spaced 3 minutes apart!
Only 2tph off-peak between Huddersfield and Leeds... and they're spaced 3 minutes apart!
perhaps it's to make it easier to cancel one of them? Like the Virgin / Avanti trains from Liverpool and Manchester to Euston calling at Crewe 6 mins apart (in the normal timetable.)
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No idea, personally I think:
Bedford to Brighton 2tph
Luton to Rainham 2tph
Luton to Wimbledon via Sutton 2tph
St Albans to Wimbledon via Mitcham Junction 2tph
That should be the minimum service provided.
TL ought to cancel 2tph St Albans to Wimbledon and the Luton to Orpington peaks.
Both are quite important for hospital staff and GTR are well aware of this...
(the hospitals both being category 1 A+E & critical care centres covering most of the area from the Thames to the south coast and both with large numbers of corona virus cases not local district or cottage hospitals with low staffing levels)
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But with the reduction of people travelling, I can't see why the Luton to Orpingtons need to run when they can be cut back to Kentish Town (They do this off peak so doing it peak isn't end of world) and starting 2 of the St Albans starters back at Luton as they be calling as booked with 2 services still starting from St Albans so it's not really as bleak as you make it out to be.
South of the core they are rather useful at the moment, north of it very much less so Kentish Town reversal is sensible
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