Still apply if you’ve passed psychometric testing? You from Gateshead by any chance?
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I don't think you'll have to resit psychometrics if you've passed it within 5 years but that's just my view based on what other TOCs use. VTEC didn't require enhanced in 2017 but I suppose that may have changed. Indeed I am, Gateshead born and raised. Good spot
Grand - just passed two weeks ago so that should stand me in good stead.
Thought you’d be from the heed - I am too but born & bred Northumbria.
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Hey peeps,
Did anyone receive that email after submitting the VR that you've not met the required benchmark? It came back so quick after I'd clicked submit! I've either scored really badly or LNER have that same technical issue with their systems, like they did previously, so will have to wait and see if that is the case. ☹
Did anyone receive that email after submitting the VR that you've not met the required benchmark? It came back so quick after I'd clicked submit! I've either scored really badly or LNER have that same technical issue with their systems, like they did previously, so will have to wait and see if that is the case. ☹
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My Friend got one instantly after he completed the VR
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Done my VR yesterday night, i didn’t receive any email
TootTootToot
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snap!
Marshall91
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Anybody still waiting for the third test? Had the email but still no test showing?
Yeah I am.still waiting. I got the email Friday but still no 3rd test.
patwreynolds
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just completed the verbal reasoning test - jeez that was hard! Nearly ran out of time too - anyone had a positive reply after this test yet? Would be massively surprised if I’ve pass that
I guess/hope that once all three tests have been completed you either get a rejection or get moved onto a more detailed phase of sifting through your application. Reviewing Cvs, etc.
patwreynolds
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Let’s hope so mate, not had a rejection just yet but early days!!
patwreynolds
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On a slightly different note, does anyone know what the salary is and by how much it increases once qualified? I know it’s £28,711 to start but wasn’t sure how/when that increases for LNER?
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https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/trainee-train-driver-virgin-trains-east-coast.136259/
See the above thread for a cautionary tale of what happened last time this lot took on trainees. Quite a few successful applicants were left in the talent pool for over a year and were then told they were no longer needed.
Hopefully the process will be better this time.
Don’t put all your eggs in one basket, and always remember a place in a talent pool is meaningless: you don’t actually have a job until you sign and return your contract, and have a start date.
See the above thread for a cautionary tale of what happened last time this lot took on trainees. Quite a few successful applicants were left in the talent pool for over a year and were then told they were no longer needed.
Hopefully the process will be better this time.
Don’t put all your eggs in one basket, and always remember a place in a talent pool is meaningless: you don’t actually have a job until you sign and return your contract, and have a start date.
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Without wishing to be pedantic, people were offered jobs which were then later withdrawn. It was never a talent pool, at least not in the sense of a typical TOC talent pool. But you are absolutely correct in your advice to be cautious.
Anyway, if anyone wants to know more, read the thread which 43066 shared above.
I had understood they were told they were successful but were awaiting contracts/start dates (which never came), which is a de facto talent pool arrangement.
However it’s described, I guess the key point is that a “job offer” only actually means anything when you have a contract and a start date.
Entirely correct. The words 'talent pool' were never used in offers. At assessment days, questions were asked as to whether successful candidates were going into a talent pool or being offered jobs and it was confirmed that it was the latter.
But ultimately it ended up being a defacto talent pool, as you say. Until there is a contract, treat it with a pinch of salt.
Calling it a talent pool would at least have been more honest of them. From that thread, I see you were involved yourself.
I hope you’ve managed to get on elsewhere in the meantime.
Thanks. I believe most of those who were caught out have gotten on elsewhere in one way or another, so it wasn't all bad news.
Well said and a reality check!
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A job offer is as good as a contract IMO. It must be honoured by the employer as far as I’m aware.
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A contract made and accepted verbally and then later withdrawn requires the employer to give or pay 7 or 30 days notice period depending on the contract terms. Unfair dismissal only applies after 2 years in service.
But, as the guidance you’ve posted indicates, an offer will only have been made, and become binding, if it has been clearly and unequivocally been communicated and accepted.
Asking the question at an assessment day: “if we are successful, will we be offered jobs or put into a talent pool?” and being told “you’ll be offered jobs”, as these candidates were, is neither an offer nor an acceptance, and no formal offer was then forthcoming.
The above thread makes it very clear that the candidates concerned were not, in fact, ever formally offered jobs as far as Virgin were concerned. TOC HR are well versed in the legal niceties of these matters and will avoid extending offers until they’re ready for you.
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Just managed to finish the third test being the verbal reasoning, no rejection email as of yet so fingers crossed
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If a manager so much so implies verbally that they have been offered the job. It is a job offer albeit harder to prove.
Not according to the ACAS guidance you yourself have posted. Implying a job has been, or will be, offered does not equal a formal job offer.
We are in danger of splitting irrelevant hairs here. I would simply refer you (and anyone else) to the above thread, if you have any doubts.
They’re an awful team to deal with. They’ve not even stayed true to their word from when we were let go. I just searched for the email and it reads...”we would like to keep in touch with you so we can make you aware when such vacancies arise and you will be given an early opportunity to apply before we make these vacancies available more widely”. From what I can tell, no early opportunity to apply was given - just an email to say they were recruiting. Luckily, I’ve not needed to apply as I’ve now qualified as a driver elsewhere.
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