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Derailment in the Bromsgrove area (24/03/2020)

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National rail is reporting a "low speed derailment" in the Bromsgrove area, but I can't find anything else on this online. Has anyone else heard of this and heard anything more about it?
 
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There is an incident on the area. Not sure if it's a derailment, per se, but it will take time to sort out. I have more info, but it's not from a public source, so will not post it here.
The system only has a finite number of generic explainers for things, so they have to go with closest reason.
 

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National rail is reporting a "low speed derailment" in the Bromsgrove area, but I can't find anything else on this online. Has anyone else heard of this and heard anything more about it?
Freight loco derailed according to XC. Diversions via Stourbridge.
 

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66057 has collided with the stop blocks on the Up spur/banker siding. The block have been totally demolished and loco derailed, it was subsequently hit by X/C 170107 on 2105 Cardiff - Birmingham which had its cab door ripped off and damage to all three coaches - no injuries reported.
 

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Freight loco derailed according to XC. Diversions via Stourbridge.

66057 has collided with the stop blocks on the Up spur/banker siding. The block have been totally demolished and loco derailed, it was subsequently hit by X/C 170107 on 2105 Cardiff - Birmingham which had its cab door ripped off and damage to all three coaches - no injuries reported.
Ok thanks both of you for your info on this.
 

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Reminds me of an incident at Claypole many years ago, when an errant Cl.31 found the sand drag at the end of the Down loop. I've got a photo of it somewhere.
 

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Wow. That could have potentially been a lot worse, hope everyone involved is okay.
 

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Driver of the 170 was obviously very shaken, but no physical injuries. Only a small number of passengers on board, none of whom received any injuries.
 

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Jeez!! I hope the boys down at Tyseley have enough Tyso Tape for that.

I'd be interested to know about the precise chronology of this incident. I would hope that the driver of the loco got an emergency call out immediately he knew he was off the road. The shunt spur does not have additional clearance to the running line so there was always the risk that the loco would be foul.
 

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Jeez!! I hope the boys down at Tyseley have enough Tyso Tape for that.

I'd be interested to know about the precise chronology of this incident. I would hope that the driver of the loco got an emergency call out immediately he knew he was off the road. The shunt spur does not have additional clearance to the running line so there was always the risk that the loco would be foul.

I think we should await the RAIB Report to avoid any speculating or finger pointing.
 

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There will only be a report if there’s safety learning to be had.

I’m not privy to the details of this particular incident but seems quite a straightforward buffer stop overrun.
 

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There will only be a report if there’s safety learning to be had.

I’m not privy to the details of this particular incident but seems quite a straightforward buffer stop overrun.

Made complicated by the subsequent collision with a passenger train. I assume they will be doing digging into various things.
 

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I’m actually doing neither. I’d just like to know precisely what happened, which I think is not unreasonable.
I actually think it’s very unreasonable to expect the rail industry to release immediately “precisely what happened” including whether the driver of the locomotive “got an emergency call out immediately”, purely so the curiosity of a member of a rail related forum can have that curiosity satisfied.

There’s an appropriate process to follow, and immediate full disclosure of all relevant information to the public won’t be part of a safety investigation. And rightly so.
 

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I actually think it’s very unreasonable to expect the rail industry to release immediately “precisely what happened” including whether the driver of the locomotive “got an emergency call out immediately”, purely so the curiosity of a member of a rail related forum can have that curiosity satisfied.

There’s an appropriate process to follow, and immediate full disclosure of all relevant information to the public won’t be part of a safety investigation. And rightly so.

In fairness, I don’t think anyone has said otherwise. This is a discussion forum where, naturally enough, discussion and speculation is to be expected.

I share @O L Leigh ’s curiosity.
 

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Yes, but he was asking for specific detailed information about the driver’s actions, and then followed it up by stating it wasn’t unreasonable to want to know, in a manner that suggested he has a right to know immediately.
 

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I think there probably will be a RAIB investigation which will probably focus on why the loco ended up obstructing the running line and what, if anything, should be done to avoid that happening in the future.
 

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Firstly, I set no expectation on when this information should be shared. I’m happy to wait for the relevant authorities to conduct their investigations and brief out their results.

But, secondly, one of my depot colleagues near enough shat himself inside out after having the cab door ripped off by the blunt end of a Cl66; an outcome that, had the Shed gone a few more inches to the side, could have been so much more serious. Therefore I don’t consider that it’s unreasonable to want to know if something could have been done to have prevented it.

...with respect.
 

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Driver of the 170 was obviously very shaken, but no physical injuries. Only a small number of passengers on board, none of whom received any injuries.
Very relieved to hear that no physical injuries to drivers or passengers. Also thanks for sharing the pictures.
I assume they will be doing digging into various things.
Including, er, the ballast to remove the 66 at some point!
But, secondly, one of my depot colleagues near enough shat himself inside out after having the cab door ripped off by the blunt end of a Cl66; an outcome that, had the Shed gone a few more inches to the side, could have been so much more serious.
Aye thats way beyond a brown trouser moment and well into I'm not going to survive this territory.

I do hope your colleague can overcome the shock in time.
 
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