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Hope it's okay to start a new thread for this, if not please merge or delete.

Thought we could share information about any problems encountered when trying to cancel hotel bookings due to coronavirus. I appreciate that if a booking is made on a non-refundable basis then it is entirely down to the goodwill of the hotelier or chain, but what if the hotel itself is in lockdown and no longer accepting guests?

I am currently worrying about a booking at a Wetherspoons hotel in April, which has now apparently been closed along with all their other hotels. I have filled in their "contact us" form, but it is headed something like "we cannot always answer individual messages". It is geared towards comments about the pub side of things as it asks for date and time of attendance, receipt number and value.

Tomorrow I will try to phone the hotel, but if it is closed down presumably there won't be anyone there to answer. Just wondered if anyone else is in a similar situation. There's £570 at stake over this as we had two rooms booked for three nights.
 
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Only good news to report. Had an Ibis in Germany booked on a non-refundable basis, so expected that to be tough luck. However I now have credit to use at the same hotel until April 2021 which hopefully I’ll be able to take advantage of. Hope Mr Spoon is as reasonable.
 

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Only good news to report. Had an Ibis in Germany booked on a non-refundable basis, so expected that to be tough luck. However I now have credit to use at the same hotel until April 2021 which hopefully I’ll be able to take advantage of. Hope Mr Spoon is as reasonable.
Similarly, I had an InterCity in Germany booked for this weekend, also on a non-refundable basis. They emailed me yesterday cancelling the reservation with a full refund approved. They have also reserved a room, should I require it, in the local IBIS.
 

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Booked a non refundable independent hotel in Belgrade with hotels.com.
Was offered a full refund yesterday, apparently doing this for all customers though depending on the end supplier some will be vouchers, most including mine will be cash.
Three cheers for hotels. Com. Shall be booking again with them when the emergency is over.
 

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I cancelled a number of Premier Inn bookings yesterday and got a full refund, on 'non-refundable' bookings I made a couple of months ago.

Today they are saying the government has explicitly told them they can't accept new guests going forwards, at least for three weeks.

I can't see how they can (legally) avoid giving you a refund - the contract between you is clearly voided in such circumstances (due to impossibility and/or frustration, I suspect - any lawyers around to point out the difference between those two, and which specifically applies here?)
 

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Glad you all seem to be meeting with positive results. I had a further thought last night that there's always credit card chargeback if I encounter any problem getting my Wetherspoons booking refunded. Luckily we paid with my husband's MasterCard.
 

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A little annoying that this came in this week as I had a booking for the weekend just past (advance train tickets and a hotel), and there was no way of just cancelling them
 

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Glad you all seem to be meeting with positive results. I had a further thought last night that there's always credit card chargeback if I encounter any problem getting my Wetherspoons booking refunded. Luckily we paid with my husband's MasterCard.

That was going to be my first question to you. Ultimately, consumer law and fair contract provisions apply, and if the provider can't deliver a service, then they must refund you. If you are unable to get them to do so, contact your card provider and put the charge into 'dispute'.

More generally, other travellers will definitely meet with various responses to cancelling hotel bookings.

At the moment, various processes from hotels and online travel agents include:
  1. Pro-actively contacting guests and offering them a free of charge cancellation, even if the hotel currently remains open - Expedia Group companies being at the forefront of this, so that's Expedia, Orbitz, Hotels.com and ebookers.
  2. Pro-actively contacting guests and offering a free of charge amendment, again even if the hotel is open, to any bookable date in the future.
  3. Pro-actively contacting guests and offering a credit towards a future stay.
In the case of (1) above, the refund may take up to 30 days given the volumes being handled. In the case of all (1), (2) and (3), where this applies to originally non-flexible bookings and the hotel remains open, then this is above and beyond the requirements of the law and any relevant specific terms and conditions.

Where it gets fiddlier is looking at what some hotel companies, for example Travelodge and Premier Inn, were doing last week; on the one hand saying that they'd permit flexibility, but on the other providing no practical process to do so and insisting that amendments could only be handled through contact centres. This is, obliquely, what Avanti et al were up to latterly as well, and easyJet still is in some circumstances.

To Premier Inn and Travelodge's credit, they have in the meantime been able to (presumably) contract some additional outsourced developer hours and get their websites updated to permit online servicing of bookings that should not normally have an amend button visible. The perils of not having in-house resource.....? They've also been pro-actively refunding pre-payments for meals for stays which take place after their restaurants have been closed.

Hopefully, easyJet will pull its finger out and do likewise; at the moment passengers whose flights are cancelled because the route as a whole has been pulled, can't even press a button to get their money back. They have to call.

Back to hotels, and where properties are in fact closing or now closed, there seem to be a variety of processes in place:
  1. Contacting guests individually, advising them of the circumstances, and making offers for alternative options, including refunds where pre-payments have been made.
  2. Contacting guests on a blanket basis, advising them that bookings are summarily cancelled and to expect a refund in due course.
  3. Contacting guests on a blanket basis, advising them that bookings are summarily cancelled and to contact them when the closure is over to rebook for a future date.
  4. Responding to guests who enquire themselves with the same message as (1), (2) or (3) above.
  5. Not communicating at all.
In such situations, if any kind of prepayment has been made for a stay within the closure period (or any period if no reopening date has been set) then the only correct positions for a hotel to take are (1), (2) or the appropriate version of (4).

(3) and (5) would be grounds for legal redress and/or card payment dispute.

The situation is dynamic, though, and hotels that are trying (3) and (5) currently may well find themselves reviewing their positions quite quickly.

Lawyers are still working.

All businesses will, understandably, be trying to preserve cash at the moment, and therefore it's likewise understandable that some may not want to overplay the offer of a refund. British Airways is up to this in quite a sneaky way, removing the apparent ability to refund and pushing passengers towards credit notes.

More subjectively, then, my feeling is that if you're dealing with a smaller, independent hotel (or holiday home owner etc), with which you have perhaps a longer term relationship, and you do intend to rebook, and you think that they're doing their best then, if you can afford it and especially if you have paid by card, let them keep the money and either rebook now, or take it as a credit for future use. It may be the difference between them surviving or not, and if you have paid by card then you'll still have full protection if they don't.

My feeling, also, is that we should remember how businesses have handled this, and favour those who are open, honest and helpful. I will be honest myself that I believe that we should not forget just how shabbily some businesses are behaving during this, and that they do not deserve our custom in future. Hopefully, their employees will then be taken on by professional, sustainable businesses that survive.

Final point to reinforce: if your booking is not imminent, and you haven't yet been offered what you consider to be an appropriate option, don't rush into accepting a sub-optimal one. This applies to flights, too. Some folks have taken options of time-limited credit vouchers or new non-flex bookings at some time in the future, but in the meantime policies have since changed to permit full refunds either out of goodwill, or because the service that there was a disinclination or no need to take, has now been cancelled itself.

Hope some or all of the above helps.
 

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Had this email from Travelodge yesterday, having booked a weekend in Stirling at the start of next month;

"Hi Captain Haddock,

In response to the Government's instruction on the 23rd March 2020 that hotels should close as part of the new restrictions to prevent the spread of Coronavirus, we are contacting you regarding your upcoming booking ref xxxxxxx at Travelodge Stirling City Centre on xx/xx/xxxx.

We are sorry to inform you that we will no longer be able to accommodate your stay as we have temporarily closed our hotels up to and including 15th April 2020 to comply with these new restrictions.

Please do not cancel this booking yourself and read the information below carefully.

If you prepaid for your booking you are entitled to a full refund and our standard terms and conditions have been waived.

However, we are offering you a voucher for the full amount paid for this booking plus an additional 25% extra in value.

To accept the 25% Extra Voucher please click the button below within the next 7 days (31st March)"


So if you've got a forthcoming booking with Travelodge it might be best to wait for them to contact you rather than cancelling it yourself. Rather than getting a refund of £80, I now have a £100 credit I can use any time up to the end of next year.
 

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Had this email from Travelodge yesterday, having booked a weekend in Stirling at the start of next month;

"Hi Captain Haddock,

In response to the Government's instruction on the 23rd March 2020 that hotels should close as part of the new restrictions to prevent the spread of Coronavirus, we are contacting you regarding your upcoming booking ref xxxxxxx at Travelodge Stirling City Centre on xx/xx/xxxx.

We are sorry to inform you that we will no longer be able to accommodate your stay as we have temporarily closed our hotels up to and including 15th April 2020 to comply with these new restrictions.

Please do not cancel this booking yourself and read the information below carefully.

If you prepaid for your booking you are entitled to a full refund and our standard terms and conditions have been waived.

However, we are offering you a voucher for the full amount paid for this booking plus an additional 25% extra in value.

To accept the 25% Extra Voucher please click the button below within the next 7 days (31st March)"


So if you've got a forthcoming booking with Travelodge it might be best to wait for them to contact you rather than cancelling it yourself. Rather than getting a refund of £80, I now have a £100 credit I can use any time up to the end of next year.

Oh no :( . I cancelled several Travelodge bookings at the weekend, at which time it was vouchers on offer only. Presumably I'm too late to get this amended for a cash refund.
 

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So if you've got a forthcoming booking with Travelodge it might be best to wait for them to contact you rather than cancelling it yourself. Rather than getting a refund of £80, I now have a £100 credit I can use any time up to the end of next year.
Have you actually got the Travelodge voucher yet? I went through the process yesterday, but haven't received the email with the voucher yet. I seem to recall they said it might take a few days.

I have also re-scheduled a pre-paid Ibis hotel booking without any problems. In that case, it was necessary to email the individual hotel directly - they were very prompt in replying. However, I see from the Accor facebook page that others have not met with such a positive response. As the Accor chain includes a lot of franchised hotels, I suspect that some individual franchisees may not be sticking to the official Accor position.

The press are reporting that there is likely to be a surge in holiday and hotel bookings once the travel restrictions are relaxed. So if you want to travel at a later date, it is probably best to re-schedule your original booking now while the prices are still relatively low.
 

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Have you actually got the Travelodge voucher yet? I went through the process yesterday, but haven't received the email with the voucher yet. I seem to recall they said it might take a few days.

Not yet, no. Like you, I got a message saying the email would be sent in the next few days.

The press are reporting that there is likely to be a surge in holiday and hotel bookings once the travel restrictions are relaxed. So if you want to travel at a later date, it is probably best to re-schedule your original booking now while the prices are still relatively low.

Unfortunately for me, the purpose of my trip is to see some Scottish football matches and no-one knows yet when they will start playing again.
 

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I have also re-scheduled a pre-paid Ibis hotel booking without any problems. In that case, it was necessary to email the individual hotel directly - they were very prompt in replying. However, I see from the Accor facebook page that others have not met with such a positive response. As the Accor chain includes a lot of franchised hotels, I suspect that some individual franchisees may not be sticking to the official Accor position.

Ibis in Hull was very quick to reply to my email requesting cancellation
Still waiting to hear back from the Ibis in Bradford about my request to shift the dates of my stay to October time (as Accor are only giving refunds for stays to the end of March last time I looked).
 

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Accor have cancelled my stay at the Ibis Luton Airport by themselves for 19 April.

It seems that the hotel is now closed- and the intention is to move me to a different one. That isn't happening!
 
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Accor have cancelled my stay at the Ibis Luton Airport by themselves for 19 April.

It seems that the hotel is now closed- and the intention is to move me to a different one. That isn't happening!

For it will probably be some random Accor group hotel miles away from Luton which can't be accessed that easily by public transport
 

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I had a non-refundable group booking for five rooms (nine people) at a Holiday Inn in the Netherlands, through Booking.com. When it became apparent that no travel would be possible, I checked the Holiday Inn website, which said that bookings could be cancelled without charge, even non-refundable ones. So I used the "cancel booking" option on Booking.com, only to be told no, if you cancel you pay the full amount. I queried this with the hotel, who said that Booking.com's T&Cs applied because it was booked through them.

There was then lots of three way ping pong between me, Booking.com and Holiday Inn, which only ended when the hotel closed its doors completely and so had no option but to refund.
 

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Premier Inn, pre-closure, moved to refund all bookings, including non-flex ones (which I had) - initially they had said they could only amend it but later further relaxed and refunded (which hit my account a few days later)

I also had a Travelodge booked for tomorrow night and refunded that at the time when it was vouchers only for non-refundable rooms, though I have yet to receive the vouchers
 

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I have a 7 night Premier Inn booking for the end of April in Penzance which of course will now need to be cancelled. No problem as it was booked at a flexible rate with payment not until arrival.
Premier Inn does offer the facility to amend the booking online to a different date and I tried to change my booking from April to September. Although, as things are going, I wonder if I will eventually end up having to cancel that.

When I tried to do this it wouldn’t work and I was getting an error message. I’ve now realised what the problem probably was. My debit card expires at the end of July. I will therefore probably have to completely cancel and rebook paying now in advance for my September booking even though it is, as a flexible rate, completely refundable. I can see that this may be a problem rebooking other hotels for the autumn. I wonder if I contacted my bank they would issue me with a new debit card now. Hopefully there won’t be any problems with a large chain like Premier Inn but I would be a bit cautious at paying in advance at a smaller independent hotel just in case it goes out of business during the current situation.
 

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I think things will remain quiet even once this is comparatively over. Probably might not recover until next year. I for one will never again get into the situation where I am spending most of a whole day printing off train ticket claim forms for upwards of possibly 20 future journeys. Even if it is a case of "only 1 ticket left at this price" - I will take my chance a couple of weeks before wanting to travel.

Different if you drive to your holiday breaks I suppose, but I doubt that is the case for the majority of users of this forum!
 

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I had a non-refundable group booking for five rooms (nine people) at a Holiday Inn in the Netherlands, through Booking.com. When it became apparent that no travel would be possible, I checked the Holiday Inn website, which said that bookings could be cancelled without charge, even non-refundable ones. So I used the "cancel booking" option on Booking.com, only to be told no, if you cancel you pay the full amount. I queried this with the hotel, who said that Booking.com's T&Cs applied because it was booked through them.

There was then lots of three way ping pong between me, Booking.com and Holiday Inn, which only ended when the hotel closed its doors completely and so had no option but to refund.
Yes you have to be very careful when using booking.com.
 

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Re Travelodge Saver Cancellation Vouchers

Isn’t the “Voucher” included in the confirmation of cancellation e-mail received almost immediately? It’s just a code to be used on your next booking




Your booking has been cancelled.

Remember, if you have made more than one booking these will need to be cancelled separately. You can use your confirmation number to view, amend or cancel your booking(s)* by logging on to My Travelodge.


Please use this Voucher: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Your Saver Rate Cancellation Voucher for £ is valid for future stays booked direct at www.travelodge.co.uk in accordance with these Terms and Conditions.

To use your voucher, proceed with your booking as usual on www.travelodge.co.uk and redeem your voucher in the basket summary page in the Discount Code / Voucher box and click Apply.
 

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For it will probably be some random Accor group hotel miles away from Luton which can't be accessed that easily by public transport

I've since been informed that they're refunding everyone instead. Another £43 in my pocket!
 

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Re Travelodge Saver Cancellation Vouchers

Isn’t the “Voucher” included in the confirmation of cancellation e-mail received almost immediately? It’s just a code to be used on your next booking




Your booking has been cancelled.

Remember, if you have made more than one booking these will need to be cancelled separately. You can use your confirmation number to view, amend or cancel your booking(s)* by logging on to My Travelodge.


Please use this Voucher: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Your Saver Rate Cancellation Voucher for £ is valid for future stays booked direct at www.travelodge.co.uk in accordance with these Terms and Conditions.

To use your voucher, proceed with your booking as usual on www.travelodge.co.uk and redeem your voucher in the basket summary page in the Discount Code / Voucher box and click Apply.

Oh heck yes, I have just checked by on my confirmation emails and you are absolutely right. That will teach me to act too quickly.
 

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Re Travelodge Saver Cancellation Vouchers

Isn’t the “Voucher” included in the confirmation of cancellation e-mail received almost immediately? It’s just a code to be used on your next booking




Your booking has been cancelled.

Remember, if you have made more than one booking these will need to be cancelled separately. You can use your confirmation number to view, amend or cancel your booking(s)* by logging on to My Travelodge.


Please use this Voucher: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Your Saver Rate Cancellation Voucher for £ is valid for future stays booked direct at www.travelodge.co.uk in accordance with these Terms and Conditions.

To use your voucher, proceed with your booking as usual on www.travelodge.co.uk and redeem your voucher in the basket summary page in the Discount Code / Voucher box and click Apply.


I got a page saying:

Thank you for your request David. You will receive an email with your voucher within the next 14 days.

Thank you for your understanding in these unprecedented times.
 

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Not a hotel but a Villa in Sicily booked for May. A friend of mine booked it for a group of us to go together. So far the owner says they won't refund the cost. Maybe it will be different nearer the time.
 

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Re Travelodge Saver Cancellation Vouchers

Isn’t the “Voucher” included in the confirmation of cancellation e-mail received almost immediately? It’s just a code to be used on your next booking




Your booking has been cancelled.

Remember, if you have made more than one booking these will need to be cancelled separately. You can use your confirmation number to view, amend or cancel your booking(s)* by logging on to My Travelodge.


Please use this Voucher: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Your Saver Rate Cancellation Voucher for £ is valid for future stays booked direct at www.travelodge.co.uk in accordance with these Terms and Conditions.

To use your voucher, proceed with your booking as usual on www.travelodge.co.uk and redeem your voucher in the basket summary page in the Discount Code / Voucher box and click Apply.

Just re-checked my stack of Travelodge cancellations that I printed off, and discovered that only two of them include a voucher code, the rest just have the booking ref. and cancellation ref. So I phoned them and have been told that the vouchers will be sent out separately, but to allow time as they are obviously very busy at present.
 

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I had a non-refundable hotel for a wedding I was attending in April with hotels.com. They told me that due to the circumstances, I could get a refund or a voucher for 12 months. However every option had them me going around in circles to call them which hung up on you immediately. Their twitter was overloaded with people whose bookings were in 24 hours and simply couldn't get through via any format.

Anyway, finally yesterday they gave me the online option to get the voucher and they did apologise profusely for the delays. Still awaiting the actual voucher though (up to 30 day wait).
 

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Just received by email the outstanding Travelodge vouchers from my cancelled bookings. Good result, and they are valid for re-bookings up to end of December 2021.
 
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