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TOC plans regarding advance tickets if destinations become no-go (Coronavirus)?

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Adam Williams

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TrainSplit: Purchased a journey 15/03/2020 as part of a replacement and re-fund for a journey 18/03/2020. Re-fund less £10 approved. Now trying to re-fund the new replacement journey which is scheduled 03/06/2020 but get "A refund is not available for the ticket and refund method you have chosen". I selected the Covid-19 link. Any thoughts? Thanks.

The app (now) says:

Please note that only bookings made before 7AM on Monday 23rd March 2020 with travel dates prior to Thursday 30th April 2020 can be automatically refunded via this page.
Please send a manual refund request in all other circumstances.

Can you send a manual request please? https://refunds.trainsplit.com/ManualRefund

Just pick medical or something for the reason, I'll add a dedicated covid19 reason in a sec.
 
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The app (now) says:



Can you send a manual request please? https://refunds.trainsplit.com/ManualRefund

Just pick medical or something for the reason
Thanks for the swift response. Missed the 30 April thing. Back on the 15th of March, June was as far forward as I could re-book and it didn't seem unreasonable then that a journey could be possible. Things are different now and the ability of the benefactor of my journey, Dean Forest Railway, may not have recovered week-day running by then.
 

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Thanks for the swift response. Missed the 30 April thing.
Entirely possible you visited the refunds site before the 30 April thing was made sufficiently clear - apologies if so.

Back on the 15th of March, June was as far forward as I could re-book and it didn't seem unreasonable then that a journey could be possible. Things are different now and the ability of the benefactor of my journey, Dean Forest Railway, may not have recovered week-day running by then.

Totally understandable and a reasonable thing to have done, everything is fast-changing at the minute. I appreciate the refunds user experience is a bit painful at the moment for people in your position. Hopefully the late-April restriction on automatic refunds can be relaxed in the future.

I can confirm we now have a dedicated Covid19 reason on the manual refund form to try and make things a bit easier.
 

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Cross Country on the other hand seem to be asking you to email Customer Services for Advance Refunds, with no scope to cancel on-line.

Good luck with that!

Indeed! I submitted one to them yesterday. There were no instructions on what to do with collected tickets, so I asked what they wanted, pointing out that instructing tens of thousands of customers to go to post boxes/offices would not be very sensible.

East Midlands Railway was far worse.

Firstly, https://www.eastmidlandsrailway.co.uk/reduced-timetable says
Owing to the developing coronavirus situation offshore, our web support and telesales team offices are currently closed meaning we cannot make changes to bookings or issue refunds over the phone.
So much for the benefits of offshoring!

That page says that if you have already printed/collected your ticket, you should go to https://www.eastmidlandsrailway.co.uk/help-manage/manage/refund-your-ticket

That page says that you should do the cancellation in your online account (regardless of ticket type). When you try for an Advance ticket, it's blocked.

You then fall back to the line
It's not possible to claim a refund online, instead call us on 03457 125 678 or email [email protected]
We have already been told the telephone number is closed, and emailing that address produces no auto-acknowlegment. The first webpage has the different line
If you are unable to request your refund online you can do so by emailing us at [email protected]
That must be the correct address, since emailing that did produce an auto-acknowledgement.
 

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CrossCountry have closed their telephone line and they aren't offering refunds of Advance tickets electronically. They're offering it by email.

I've submitted my requests to the email address provided but I imagine it will be some time until they process them.
 

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CrossCountry have closed their telephone line and they aren't offering refunds of Advance tickets electronically. They're offering it by email.

I've submitted my requests to the email address provided but I imagine it will be some time until they process them.

Thats only for travel today/tomorrow.I should be travelling on Thursday but CC via Train line say they will contact me to explain the process but do not say when.
 

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Thats only for travel today/tomorrow.I should be travelling on Thursday but CC via Train line say they will contact me to explain the process but do not say when.
Well according to the CrossCountry website you can email. I certainly cannot refund any Advance tickets on my account, despite the trains having already been removed from the timetable so I could not really travel even if we weren't advised to remain at home. The telephone line is still switched off too. So I don't see what else could be done?
 

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Transpennine seemingly now have a form up, but as I've got actual paper tickets I'd apparently need to post them. Cost of doing so would be comparable to the price of all the tickets combined so I won't be bothering
 

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My ink cartridges have just arrived, and I am printing out the TPE claim I did two days ago and saved. However it was for travel yesterday, and I see the printed sheet has come out with today's date on. Will this invalidate the claim? It could look as if I travelled anyway and then claimed. Obviously there's no mark on the tickets and they haven't been through any barriers so hopefully it won't be a problem but you never know.
 

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Cracking on nicely with printing off TPE refund claims (as in booked on TPE website), but have just tried to do one for a GWR journey on 23rd May and only getting the options of amend journey or view full details. Is that because it's too far in the future for current claims?
 

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Second problem - some are "aftersales performed" i.e. I have already amended the journey. The new booking won't let me claim and the original one is greyed out for making a claim.
 

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Second problem - some are "aftersales performed" i.e. I have already amended the journey. The new booking won't let me claim and the original one is greyed out for making a claim.

I was wrong about the replacement ticket not letting me refund, sorry about that. I have now used the "additional information" box that relates to the replacement ticket (£2 extra) to explain about the original booking and am enclosing both sets of tickets. Not sure what happens if the replacement ticket was zero value.

Edited to add: Just had to try it with a zero value re-booked ticket and it isn't possible. May have to post a claim in, print out a blank form if possible and attach tickets with an explanation.
 
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I have now been able to request a refund from Trainline and CC Trains.
It has now been accepted.
Should have been travelling today.
First Class return for two Exeter-Edinburgh.
 

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I have had an email from Avanti Customer Services referring to "your claim" with no attachment of my original message. It also has Cross Country in small print. Very confused as I wasn't aware of any connection between Avanti and XC, and the only claim I have made so far from Avanti was for a TPE service, and I used Avanti's online claim form and gave full details plus a photo of the ticket. They are asking for the booking reference which was included on the completed form.

Confused. I have replied to the email asking them to clarify what they want and suggesting they include full details of the original request as currently people will be possibly submitting multiple claims.
 

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I've just requested a refund from LNER for tickets that I have already collected from a TVM. There was no instruction to return the tickets at any stage (I've been here before with LNER!). Will I need to return them please?
 

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I've just requested a refund from LNER for tickets that I have already collected from a TVM. There was no instruction to return the tickets at any stage (I've been here before with LNER!). Will I need to return them please?
I think everyone is just accepting photos of tickets marked "void" or cut in half now. Make sure your photo is legible.
 

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I think everyone is just accepting photos of tickets marked "void" or cut in half now. Make sure your photo is legible.

But as before, they have not asked for this, and by definition not sent me anywhere to send anything to them!
 

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Update re. TPE - I tweeted them today as confusingly some of the confirmation pages I'm printing were showing the Freepost at First TransPennine Express address, while some had the Runcorn address without saying Freepost so I was putting a stamp on them. Anyway apparently they both go to the same place, so it is fine to use the Freepost First TransPennine Express address on the envelope.
 

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But as before, they have not asked for this, and by definition not sent me anywhere to send anything to them!

Finally, I got an email from LNER yesterday with instructions on sending a picture of the tickets cut in half to a specific email address. I've no idea if this was triggered by my follow-up query earlier this week. Hopefully things will now move.
 

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Finally, I got an email from LNER yesterday with instructions on sending a picture of the tickets cut in half to a specific email address. I've no idea if this was triggered by my follow-up query earlier this week. Hopefully things will now move.

Spooky - I was just checking my account on how to get back in touch with them as I'd heard nothing and 2 emails arrived as I did this confirming the full refund :)
 

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I wonder when TrainSplit will allow refunds for advance tickets purchased before the 23rd March dated in June, after-all the guidance on the National Rail Enquires doesn't mention an end date.

They (Raileasy) are the only major retailer who has introduced an end date for claims
 
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