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Hi,

I'm trying to track down a Documentary that I saw some time ago about the ill fated APT publicity run, the one where the train lost power due to ice leaving Glasgow, and the hungover reporters blamed the their nausea on the tilt. Also looking for any other accounts of this trip.

Does anyone know what documentary that might have been? Or of any other detailed written accounts of that trip?

Many thanks.
 
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Is that the one where they show the relieving Preston guard (clearly a Wiganer) struggling with the PA?

"Nah then, Jock. Ow do yer make this werrrk?"
 
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There are at least two books with mention of the press trip...."APT a promise unfulfilled" by Hugh Williams and "APT the untold story" by David N Clough.
 
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Nonsense said:
I'm trying to track down a Documentary that I saw some time ago about the ill fated APT publicity run, the one where the train lost power due to ice leaving Glasgow, and the hungover reporters blamed the their nausea on the tilt. Also looking for any other accounts of this trip.
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If you look at this video from about 09.45 to 12.00 there is description of the first run which seemed to go to plan. From 12.00 to 12.40 a subsequent run is terminated at Crewe due to bad weather.

 
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I watched the documentary.

Essentially the media broke the APT project with negative reviews, from all accounts it was a capable train, ahead of its time, tilting technology is now used routinely on the WCML.

Those same journalist have denied themselves and others the opportunity to travel on tilting trains regularly 20 year earlier.

The APT just had a dose of bad luck luck and it was difficult to shake off the negative press.
 
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Mag_seven said:
If you look at this video from about 09.45 to 12.00 there is description of the first run which seemed to go to plan. From 12.00 to 12.40 a subsequent run is terminated at Crewe due to bad weather.

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Good link - but the sound of Spandau Ballet is inevitably going to be bad news:lol:

Maybe it's a prog that those clips were sourced from that the OP recalls? I've def seen a longer slot on it than that but can't think what it was....

Could it have been the BBC doc on the HST (Timeshift?) that also featured it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b053pxdr
 
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WesternLancer said:
Good link - but the sound of Spandau Ballet is inevitably going to be bad news:lol:

Maybe it's a prog that those clips were sourced from that the OP recalls? I've def seen a longer slot on it than that but can't think what it was....

Could it have been the BBC doc on the HST (Timeshift?) that also featured it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b053pxdr
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Yes, that time-shift does cover this fro about 45 mins in - just been watching it on a recording. It's basically a doc about BTF films covering the modernization of BR.
 
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I imagine you're probably thinking of the BBC Horizon doc, The Race Against Time which aired in December of 1981. Someone has this on Youtube but unfortunately it's now marked as private. The only clip I can find is this one which is about 22 minutes long.

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BBC Horizon - s1981e26 - The Race Against Time

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This episode is a gem especially from the technical perspective (it gets into the nitty-gritty of the cardan shafts and brake issues) and I dearly wish the rest of it was online. Not sitting on any BBC archive or torrent site from what I can see.
 
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