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A career as a signaller

bouff34

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Yes, on an 8hr roster (but not a 12hr one). Hence why the pay matrices include a 'Normal Saturday night' column...

Nb payslip-wise:

Overtime @ 1.25 rate = 0000-finish on Mon AM (second half of Sun night turn)
Sunday @ 0.50 rate = 0000-finish on Sun AM (second half of Sat night turn) - in addition to 1.00 rate paid as part of headline pay

Brilliant... thank you. That's the bit I struggle with. I kind of know roughly what I should be getting up until I look at my payslip and then I get completely baffled!!!
 
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bouff34

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not exactly I’m afraid. Take the bank hol Friday coming up, if you work Thursday night (Into the bank hol) 1800-0600, then you get basic rate for all of that shift. If you work the night shift on the bank hol Friday (1800-0600), then, if you choose LROP, you get basic plus a comp day, or if you choose HROP, you get HROP for 1800-0000, then basic pay for 0000 - 0600...

hope that makes sense!
its starting to....! thank you
 

bouff34

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You can never have too much time off, IMO...




At least there's a safety justification for that. But getting paid for not working a bank holiday? Those outside the railway bubble love that one... :lol:



But
This will be me this time around as I'm booked off both days.

That's the one bit I do get. The rest of the world gets a bank holiday off. So if it falls on your rest day clearly you should be given an alternative day off to compensate. Otherwise if you had a rest day happen to fall on all the bank holidays through the year you wouldn't have any extra holiday due to the bank holidays.
 

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Hi, it’s
IRC2181551

Thanks

Hi - I can see that job on the careers site search now. I don't think there is a real time link between that and the actual site where you can apply, the careers site is always behind and gets updated overnight so it may just be a timing thing
 

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Whilst the discussion is around pay, in the contract I have in the overtime section it says:

"Overtime that is not on a free day or a Sunday is payed at basic hourly rate"

Does that mean if I do extra hours at the beginning or end of a shift is paid at a flat rate?
 

bouff34

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Whilst the discussion is around pay, in the contract I have in the overtime section it says:

"Overtime that is not on a free day or a Sunday is payed at basic hourly rate"

Does that mean if I do extra hours at the beginning or end of a shift is paid at a flat rate?


Yes it does.
 

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Would anyone happen to know if NR use the same online tests for everyone, or are they randomised each time they are taken? For example if I should fail them and take them again in another six months are they likely to be the same? Cheers
 

superseven

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Afternoon people, I'm here as I'm applying for one of the TBASC vacancies currently under consideration. I've got 30 years experience as an aircraft technician both military and civil, I've just been made redundant due to recent events. A friend who is a driver pointed me in this direction, I was looking at engineering roles but to be frank this role looks more attractive for a number of reasons... Reading through this thread bit by bit and discovering many new acronyms amongst plenty of new terminology. I must thank everyone who has contributed, it's a mine of useful information. CV and 69 questions sent in on Monday, invite to tests received Friday, tests submitted the same day and confirmation of a pass on Saturday. Guessing it'll slow down a bit from this point!!
It will be interesting to see how the NR recruitment process continues with everything that is happening, I'm guessing the vacancies will still need to be filled within an allotted time frame, possibly online/telephone interviews rather than face to face?
I've got some temporary employment (driving a black car, carrying things and screwing boxes together) to keep the pot topped up, official leaving date from my current company is April 30th. Fingers crossed, and again, thank you all for your previous input.
 
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Kraken

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Afternoon people, I'm here as I'm applying for one of the TBROC vacancies currently under consideration. I've got 30 years experience as an aircraft technician both military and civil, I've just been made redundant due to recent events. A friend who is a driver pointed me in this direction, I was looking at engineering roles but to be frank this role looks more attractive for a number of reasons... Reading through this thread bit by bit and discovering many new acronyms amongst plenty of new terminology. I must thank everyone who has contributed, it's a mine of useful information. CV and 69 questions sent in on Monday, invite to tests received Friday, tests submitted the same day and confirmation of a pass on Saturday. Guessing it'll slow down a bit from this point!!
It will be interesting to see how the NR recruitment process continues with everything that is happening, I'm guessing the vacancies will still need to be filled within an allotted time frame, possibly online/telephone interviews rather than face to face?
I've got some temporary employment (driving a black car, carrying things and screwing boxes together) to keep the pot topped up, official leaving date from my current company is April 30th. Fingers crossed, and again, thank you all for your previous input.

Good luck super seven, I’ve got a few applications at the same stage as you. I guess we’re going to be waiting a while for progression!
 

WoollyMammoth

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Afternoon people, I'm here as I'm applying for one of the TBROC vacancies currently under consideration. I've got 30 years experience as an aircraft technician both military and civil, I've just been made redundant due to recent events. A friend who is a driver pointed me in this direction, I was looking at engineering roles but to be frank this role looks more attractive for a number of reasons... Reading through this thread bit by bit and discovering many new acronyms amongst plenty of new terminology. I must thank everyone who has contributed, it's a mine of useful information. CV and 69 questions sent in on Monday, invite to tests received Friday, tests submitted the same day and confirmation of a pass on Saturday. Guessing it'll slow down a bit from this point!!
It will be interesting to see how the NR recruitment process continues with everything that is happening, I'm guessing the vacancies will still need to be filled within an allotted time frame, possibly online/telephone interviews rather than face to face?
I've got some temporary employment (driving a black car, carrying things and screwing boxes together) to keep the pot topped up, official leaving date from my current company is April 30th. Fingers crossed, and again, thank you all for your previous input.

Hello mate fingers crossed! Is that the Three Bridges ASC one? Haven’t seen an ROC position recently but could have missed it.

Not to alarm anyone but they have started postponing some recruitment due to the current climate.
 

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I’ve applied for 9th grade signaller at three bridges. Passed benchmark waiting to see if I’ll get an interview. Basic pay is about 48k. How much can i realistically earn with overtime?

The only trouble is three bridges is about 1 and half hours away so definitely considering my options.
 

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I’ve applied for 9th grade signaller at three bridges. Passed benchmark waiting to see if I’ll get an interview. Basic pay is about 48k. How much can i realistically earn with overtime?

The only trouble is three bridges is about 1 and half hours away so definitely considering my options.

depends how much OT... some g9 are earning 90-100k but that’s with a fair load of OT......

As for hour n half drive, can be done but need think about fatigue etc, traffic etc, 1.30hr on a good day could be 3 hours on a bad day, how will you feel on a set of nights with limited sleep and that commute???
 

railwanabe

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Tbh I currently do about the 12-13 hour days on my current job.

How much ot are we talking to hit 90-100k in terms of hours?
 

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I’ve applied for 9th grade signaller at three bridges. Passed benchmark waiting to see if I’ll get an interview. Basic pay is about 48k. How much can i realistically earn with overtime?

The only trouble is three bridges is about 1 and half hours away so definitely considering my options.

Hello, are we talking Three Bridge ASC or Three Bridges ROC?
 

Tom Quinne

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I’ve applied for 9th grade signaller at three bridges. Passed benchmark waiting to see if I’ll get an interview. Basic pay is about 48k. How much can i realistically earn with overtime?

The only trouble is three bridges is about 1 and half hours away so definitely considering my options.

I worked 90 minutes from my first box - it’ll kill you, well as close to it as you’ll come without actually kicking the bucket!

You really want to be doing RDW when you've a 90 minute trip each side of your 12hr turn.
 

Tom Quinne

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I’ve applied for 9th grade signaller at three bridges. Passed benchmark waiting to see if I’ll get an interview. Basic pay is about 48k. How much can i realistically earn with overtime?

The only trouble is three bridges is about 1 and half hours away so definitely considering my options.

it does worry me that one of the first question a you ask is about how much you can earn, not what the working environment like, is it busy, what the other guys like etc.

This the problem now people are big bucks base salary, even bigger bucks to be earned in realistic RDW and their eyes start rolling pound signs.

Not really giving two toots about the job or Railway, the same way the driving grade has become.

What do you know about the railway or job out of interest?

Sorry for being hostile, but it’s really annoying see a job I love being turned into a soulless cash cow by people who don’t care.

If I’ve grabbed hold of the wrong end of the stick then I apologise.
 

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it does worry me that one of the first question a you ask is about how much you can earn, not what the working environment like, is it busy, what the other guys like etc.

This the problem now people are big bucks base salary, even bigger bucks to be earned in realistic RDW and their eyes start rolling pound signs.

Not really giving two toots about the job or Railway, the same way the driving grade has become.

What do you know about the railway or job out of interest?

Sorry for being hostile, but it’s really annoying see a job I love being turned into a soulless cash cow by people who don’t care.

If I’ve grabbed hold of the wrong end of the stick then I apologise.

if there was a way to ‘like’ your post I’d hit that button right now. Personally, I’ve not started yet but have a start date and will be going through school etc (when we’re able). I’ve earned ‘big money’ in my previous career as a senior insurance manager at a global insurer where I had a team of 80 across 3 sites. It took me 18 years to get to the high grades.
I want to learn the signaller job properly, and be set on at the right grade for my ability (no experience) and work my way up as I learn the job. Totally happy to start at the bottom to learn the trade, it’s the best way in my experience. I’d also want to be comfortable and confident in the grade I’m at before trying to push for a higher grade/ more money. My motivation is to join a professional institution, with proper training and an interesting career, with great people that I hope, will see out my working life. Get the basics right, learn the job properly, don't rush it and the the rest will fall into place.
 

Tom Quinne

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That’s extremely refreshing to here, I would say there is no reason why you couldn’t or should enter the grade at a 6/7/8 or 9 providing you have the right outlook, and attitude to the job.

Personally I think you might well be better fo go in the deep end, you’ll experience more in 6 months at a busy high grade location than potentially 6 years at say a grade 2/3/4 location.
 

Javagem

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That’s extremely refreshing to here, I would say there is no reason why you couldn’t or should enter the grade at a 6/7/8 or 9 providing you have the right outlook, and attitude to the job.

Personally I think you might well be better fo go in the deep end, you’ll experience more in 6 months at a busy high grade location than potentially 6 years at say a grade 2/3/4 location.

Good to know, I’m just not expecting to slot in at a higher grade role if I’m not deemed ready for it. Not sure how it works really, after signaller school. We are advised to apply for roles that become available. I’d like to work at the York Roc preferably but we’ll see. I don’t think I’d go straight in and apply for a G9 though.
 

Tom Quinne

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Ah your the talent pool for York?
York ROC will be a fantastic place to get any job in to be honest, you’ll have pretty much every grade in there from grade two to SSM grade ten.

But with that brings competition from the other lower grade links for the high grade jobs.

All I would say is crack on with signalling school, get a permeant job ideally in the ROC, show willing to your and the other LOMs at York.

Learn the job, if you have ARS don’t let it play trains all day long - get involved.

Best of luck, it really is the best job on the railway, IF you want it to be.
 

Javagem

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Ah your the talent pool for York?
York ROC will be a fantastic place to get any job in to be honest, you’ll have pretty much every grade in there from grade two to SSM grade ten.

But with that brings competition from the other lower grade links for the high grade jobs.

All I would say is crack on with signalling school, get a permeant job ideally in the ROC, show willing to your and the other LOMs at York.

Learn the job, if you have ARS don’t let it play trains all day long - get involved.

Best of luck, it really is the best job on the railway, IF you want it to be.
Yeah, on the 27/4 York future opportunities Intake. Can’t wait Tom, what is ARS?
 

Tom Quinne

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ARSE or ARS Automatic Route Setting (equipment) basically the computer setting routes for trains according to the days timetable.

ideally for quiet through routes, or busy terminal stations - but a complete arse when it comes to busy through locations.
 

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