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Domh245

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I would think that's because the scrap yards are full and unable to process anything at the moment, rather than any potential need to keep them.
 

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Just repeating some information in 315 Withdrawals thread and from various bits of information gleaned from youtube and flickr, I have the following

317663 : 29/6/19 5Q97 1639 Ilford E.M.U.D. to Ely Papworth Sdgs Gbrf (hauled by 66703)
317669 : 22/6/19 5Q97 1632 Ilford E.M.U.D. to Ely Papworth Sdgs Gbrf (hauled by 66750)
317722 : 22:15 Ilford EMUD - Ely Papworth Sidings on unknown date in first week March : Present at Ely on 7/3/19
317887 + 317889 : 17/3/20 5Q17 0120 Ilford EMUD - Ely Papworth Sdgs GBRF (hauled by 66783 with 317889)
317891 + 317892 : 3/3/20 Ilford EMUD - Northampton Up Sidings (under own power with 317892) for warm storage Northampton
 

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317708 and 317719 went to Northampton last week, there was also a move on 24/3 but units unknown.
 

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891/892 are off lease from ARL and have been taken by Angel to Ely. 888/890 off lease this Sunday.
 

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317708 and 317719 went to Northampton last week, there was also a move on 24/3 but units unknown.

Interesting. In tracking down the working, it seems 708 and 719 went on 27/3 (https://flic.kr/p/2iJPkko) but there was a Northampton - Ilford working earlier in the day. I wonder if that was the units that went on the 24/3 being swapped for some reason.
 

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Interesting. In tracking down the working, it seems 708 and 719 went on 27/3 (https://flic.kr/p/2iJPkko) but there was a Northampton - Ilford working earlier in the day. I wonder if that was the units that went on the 24/3 being swapped for some reason.

So far

317887 + 317889
317891 + 317892
317708 + 317719

Replaced by

710121+710108
710103+710105
710123+710129

As 87015 said correctly 888/890 next.
 

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317891/2 have just passed through Cambridge bound for Ely Papworth, 5Q17 from Ilford according to RTT. They were hauled by the Biffa-liveried 66 using the ex-508 barrier coaches.
 

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714/729 off lease this weekend starting the withdrawal of those ones. I don't believe any ARL 317s have been used in passenger this week but anything that sneak out could certainly be last chance saloon.
 
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Which ones are PRM modified? Sorry if there is a list in another thread, to be honest just too lazy to go looking!

The full list of units which either have been or will be modified is as follows:

317337-344, 347, 348, 501, 502, 504, 506-508, 510-513, 515, 881-886

In other news, GA's temporary two-hourly Cambridge - Stansted Airport shuttle seems to be booked a single 317. Nice to see the old girls out and about up this end of the line again, even if it is just one per day!

Hope this helps!
 
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The full list of units which either have been or will be modified is as follows:

317337-344, 347, 348, 501, 502, 504, 506-508, 510-513, 515, 881-886

In other news, GA's temporary two-hourly Cambridge - Stansted Airport shuttle seems to be booked a single 317. Nice to see the old girls out and about up this end of the line again, even if it is just one per day!

Hope this helps!
Thanks for the info
 

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Anybody wanting to catch an ARL 317 May be out of luck...with the current reduced timetable, run exclusively by 315/710 with an abundance of options/replacements for both, if this continues for a considerable period and training restarts there’s a good chance that 317s will never come back in service at all.
 

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Anybody wanting to catch an ARL 317 May be out of luck...with the current reduced timetable, run exclusively by 315/710 with an abundance of options/replacements for both, if this continues for a considerable period and training restarts there’s a good chance that 317s will never come back in service at all.
Agreed - seems more than odds on. All /8s long gone and /7s well on way out:
317708 Northampton
709 Northampton
710 Northampton
714 off lease, ROSCO taken to Wembley?
719 Northampton
723 Northampton
729 off lease, ROSCO taken to Wembley?
732 Northampton
 

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Will miss the 317's they have put in sterling service, the 317/5's are in almost as built condition internally . They are unsung heroes especially on West Anglia. Hopefully 1 is saved. Would be great to see one repainted into origonal Blue and Grey which for me was their finest livery
They started off on BedPan services replacing hydraulic DMUs before being replaced themseives by dual voltage 319s. Next stop was to Bletchley for LM servi ces from Euston to Birmingham New Street. Being replaced this time by Dusty Bin 321s they all finally congregated at Hornsey and Ilford. A few even made it to the LTS as a stop gap until the 357s arrived.
 

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They started off on BedPan services replacing hydraulic DMUs before being replaced themseives by dual voltage 319s. Next stop was to Bletchley for LM servi ces from Euston to Birmingham New Street. Being replaced this time by Dusty Bin 321s they all finally congregated at Hornsey and Ilford. A few even made it to the LTS as a stop gap until the 357s arrived.

Would it be accurate to say that, with the exception of Paddington, the Class 317/1s have worked out of every AC electrified "London Terminal"?
 

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Agreed - seems more than odds on. All /8s long gone and /7s well on way out:
317708 Northampton
709 Northampton
710 Northampton
714 off lease, ROSCO taken to Wembley?
719 Northampton
723 Northampton
729 off lease, ROSCO taken to Wembley?
732 Northampton
Do you know when the last one ran?
 

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They started off on BedPan services replacing hydraulic DMUs before being replaced themseives by dual voltage 319s. Next stop was to Bletchley for LM servi ces from Euston to Birmingham New Street. Being replaced this time by Dusty Bin 321s they all finally congregated at Hornsey and Ilford. A few even made it to the LTS as a stop gap until the 357s arrived.
I think most of the first series ran on the LTS at least once. I had nearly 30 of them. They had 20 units for a few years. They went back to WAGN but during the 357 crisis they hired three random pairs of WAGN units every day. This included units that had not worked on LTS before.
 

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They started off on BedPan services replacing hydraulic DMUs before being replaced themseives by dual voltage 319s. Next stop was to Bletchley for LM servi ces from Euston to Birmingham New Street. Being replaced this time by Dusty Bin 321s they all finally congregated at Hornsey and Ilford. A few even made it to the LTS as a stop gap until the 357s arrived.

Also worth remembering that a handful of units actually made it back to BedPan services in the mid-2000s during the Thameslink Blockade, some still in LTS livery!
 

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723/732 Northampton-Ilford today, almost certainly this weeks pair going off lease and looks like a path Monday to dump them in Wembley with the other pair
 

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20311, 47813 & 20314 made their way to Ely Papworth Sidings today sandwiching some barrier vehicles. Not sure if this is to drag some of the first 317s off to scrap, or to drag another 442 to Eastleigh for component recovery.
 

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