TRIVIA: Services that operated in BR days (Post-Beeching) that no longer run now!

Ashley Hill · 1 Apr 2020

Penzance-Portsmouth via Westbury
Penzance-Milford Haven

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leytongabriel · 1 Apr 2020

Victoria - London Bridge via Denmark Hill
Services from Clapton to Tottenham Hale and up the Lea Valley
Watford Junction - Broad Street via Primrose Hill and then to Liverpool St using Graham Rd curve
Canonbury - Broad St before Overground reopened line except old Shoreditch - Broad St
Stratford - North Woolwich (part taken over by DLR)
Through trains via Dagenham Dock and Grays to Southend all day
Wyndham - Dereham
Haltwhistle - Alston
Barnstaple - Ilfracombe
Penrith - Keswick
Kings Cross and Kentish Town - Moorgate via Widened lines
Suburban rush hour trains terminating at Kings Cross York Rd
Drayton Park - Broad St
Through Sudbury - St Osyth's ? ( Colchester Town)
Non -Stop Harwich boat trains from Liverpool st - 'Hook Continental'

pdeaves · 2 Apr 2020

leytongabriel said:
Through Sudbury - St Osyth's ? ( Colchester Town)

St Botolph's, no? Or is this some local reference I don't get?

30907 · 2 Apr 2020

Jorge Da Silva said:
Services that used to run in BR Days, POST BEECHING, that no longer run now.

This includes services which ran during the BR Days between 1965 until privatisation, you can include services which ceased after privatisation as long as they existed before then.

The title and description is very wide-ranging. Do you mean any service that ran between 1965 and 1996, or do they have to have been running in 1965?
For example, the Poole-Newcastle/Leeds service didn't run in its BR Crosscountry form until 1967 (it had predecessors though), and the XC routes to Brighton etc didn't start till around 1980.
Are we including lines closed that were NOT in Beeching, eg Swanage?

Taking the broadest interpretation:
Victoria (C) - Beckenham Jn
Through trains to Bromley N
SR Continental services...

d9009alycidon · 2 Apr 2020

Glasgow to Kilmacolm, Edinburgh to Perth via Glenfarg, High Street to Bridgeton Central, Balloch Pier, Troon Avoiding Line, Fairlie Pier

Momo and diggy · 2 Apr 2020

Euston to Inverness 'the clansman'

Jorge Da Silva · 2 Apr 2020

30907 said:
The title and description is very wide-ranging. Do you mean any service that ran between 1965 and 1996, or do they have to have been running in 1965?
For example, the Poole-Newcastle/Leeds service didn't run in its BR Crosscountry form until 1967 (it had predecessors though), and the XC routes to Brighton etc didn't start till around 1980.
Are we including lines closed that were NOT in Beeching, eg Swanage?

Taking the broadest interpretation:
Victoria (C) - Beckenham Jn
Through trains to Bromley N
SR Continental services...

any services that ran between 1965 and 1996. Lines closed by Beeching post 1965 but not Beeching CAN be included

Springs Branch · 2 Apr 2020

Some examples which ended in period 1970 to 1972:-

Manchester/Preston - Colne - Skipton
Manchester - Rose Hill - Bollington - Macclesfield
Manchester - Hayfield
Rochdale - Bury Knowsley St - Bolton
Bury Bolton St - Rawtenstall
Liverpool Central - Gateacre

frodshamfella · 2 Apr 2020

Charing X to Ramsgate via North Kent line ( Summer services ). I remember getting these as a kid.

Charing Cross to Bromley North and Charing Cross to Addiscombe. Elmers End to Sanderstead, caught one of the last of these services.

Broad Street to Richmond and Watford Junc.
North Woolwich to Stratford

Chester to Helsby via Ellesmere Port ??

A0wen · 2 Apr 2020

leytongabriel said:
Drayton Park - Broad St

You actually mean Finsbury Park - Broad Street.

Drayton Park was a London Transport station and didn't have a direct surface connection to Finsbury Park until BR took over the Northern City Line to Moorgate and diverted GN inner suburban services that way in place of Broad Street or Moorgate via Kings Cross.

A0wen · 2 Apr 2020

ECML services via Selby.

Kentish Town to Barking - diverted to Gospel Oak when MML was electrified.

JBuchananGB · 3 Apr 2020

Eridge & Groombridge to Tunbridge Wells was run by BR until 1985. Now the Spa Valley Railway.

QJ · 4 Apr 2020

I caught many a boat train from Victoria to the likes of Dover Marine, Folkestone Harbour, Newhaven Harbour, Southampton Eastern and Western Docks. There was the Night Ferry I travelled on a couple of times in the through coaches to Paris. Then there was a cross country service from Manchester to Newhaven.

I certainly miss the flexibility given by late evening and overnight services on Saturdays that no longer exist.

Bishopstone · 4 Apr 2020

Through services between East and West Coastway (Seaford-Worthing/Littlehampton etc) via Brighton. Unless these were a Connex innovation under the original franchise?

contrex · 4 Apr 2020

Does London Bridge - London Bridge via Tulse Hill, Streatham Common and Selhurst count? Or anything between Holborn Viaduct and Blackfriars?

LNW-GW Joint · 4 Apr 2020

Merle Haggard said:
The Summer Saturdays Virgin service was, I thought, a franchise commitment for the first few years and, though that doesn't necessarily mean it was carried over from BR, I think in this case it was.
Virgin possibly decided that the market for people wanting to travel from Birmingham and Coventry to Margate or Ramsgate for a holiday was limited and instead aimed at the enthusiast one by providing a variety of traction. On the two occasions I used it (and came back on the return working)it was reasonably loaded and the majority of passengers seemed to be traction enthusiasts. It may have only run for one summer with Virgin.

BR XC had many variations on (Liverpool-Birmingham)-Reading-Kensington-South Coast services in the 80s and up to 1993 I think.
Destinations included Folkestone Central (via Chatham), Dover Marine (via Ashford), sometimes a complete circle of Kent via Bromley South-Chatham-Dover Priory-Ashford-Tonbridge-Bromley South.
They eventually fixed on Ramsgate and then cut the train back to summer Saturdays, running via the WCML.
The more regular Manchester-Reading-Brighton service usually ran via Kensington but often ran via Guildford at weekends.
It even ran East Croydon-Reading via Herne Hill, Clapham Jn and Staines on occasion.
For a period an XC train reached Newhaven Marine I think, and the Manchester-Harwich ran for a spell for XC via the WCML and the NLL.
Poole (occasionally Weymouth) was a regular destination for XC services, now cut back to Bournemouth.

frodshamfella · 4 Apr 2020

contrex said:
Does London Bridge - London Bridge via Tulse Hill, Streatham Common and Selhurst count? Or anything between Holborn Viaduct and Blackfriars?

There was also Victoria to London Bridge via Peckham Rye

frodshamfella · 4 Apr 2020

Dartford to Blackfriars and Holborn Viaduct via Bexleyheath or via Sidcup

route101 · 4 Apr 2020

Sprinter107 said:
The direct trains between Scotland and the South West via the WCML

They also ran to the South Coast down the WCML

contrex · 4 Apr 2020

frodshamfella said:
There was also Victoria to London Bridge via Peckham Rye

The old South London Line service. I think it's already been mentioned.

Polarbear · 4 Apr 2020

The Shrewsbury - York overnight/mail train was a long standing service that ended in later BR days.

Whistler40145 · 4 Apr 2020

Through service from Aberystwyth to London Euston ended in BR days

hexagon789 · 4 Apr 2020

Edinburgh Waverley to Stranraer via Shotts

Quakers Yard · 4 Apr 2020

Merthyr to Coryton via city line...also to Penarth.
Cardiff to Cleethorpes.

deltic · 8 Apr 2020

Manchester to Heysham
Workington/Barrow to London Euston
Manchester-Harwich boat train
cross country services from Liverpool to West of England
cross country services from S Wales to Manchester via Birmingham

davetheguard · 8 Apr 2020

Cross Country serving Didcot Parkway, Poole, Brighton, & Liverpool.

d9009alycidon · 8 Apr 2020

Here's an obscure one for you - passenger services using the Inverness avoiding line, has this has been used since the Sprinters came into use?

Lloyds siding · 8 Apr 2020

I remember the Liverpool Lime St and Manchester Piccadilly services to Brighton and also Dover Western Docks, which went via Kensington Olympia. Indeed Kensington Olympia had a host of services in the mid 1980s to Birmingham, Glasgow and Edinburgh as well as those above. it was also the London Motorail terminal until it closed in 1981.

AJM580 · 8 Apr 2020

Liverpool Street - Great Yarmouth
Liverpool Street - Lowestoft
Liverpool Street - Peterborough
Yarmouth South Town - Lowestoft (closed 1970)

Cricketer8for9 · 8 Apr 2020

Sorry duplicate re Elmers End etc. That said Sanderstead no longer has the early morning stopper to Victoria.

Did anyone mention Coulsdon North?

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