Dai Corner
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They seem to have had time to police the parks and move sunbathers and picnickers on. From Geordie driver's mate's report it sounds like they should be concentrating on the streets?
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They seem to have had time to police the parks and move sunbathers and picnickers on. From Geordie driver's mate's report it sounds like they should be concentrating on the streets?
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Bletchleyite
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Who goes for picnics on the street?
deecee16
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It's been reported that to minimise contact with the driver, passengers boarding buses on routes based at Walworth garage must use the centre door. Since the Oyster card reader is on the drivers ticket machine, how do they tap-in assuming the front of the bus will be out of bounds.
It's a four-week trial but the union wants all bus companies to prevent passengers using the front doors.
Does this will mean that in effect all London bus travel will be free?
It's a four-week trial but the union wants all bus companies to prevent passengers using the front doors.
Does this will mean that in effect all London bus travel will be free?
Bletchleyite
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Could Borismasters sitting idle be redeployed perhaps?
Looking at my local operator's Twitter feed, there are many comments from people who are angry that buses are still running, and also people angry that there are not enough buses for key workers to get to work. The expression 'stuck between a rock and a hard place' springs to mind.
On a positive note, there is a notable increase of positive comments from passengers, thanking them for continuing to provide a service, and thanking the drivers.
On a positive note, there is a notable increase of positive comments from passengers, thanking them for continuing to provide a service, and thanking the drivers.
Geordie driver
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It is physically impossible for the police to enforce the 2 metre rule, it is down to us all to respect it. I understand there was a funeral in the Midlands with 200 people there, police ordered them to disperse and they refused, no further action taken.
They government don't have to manpower to enforce these guidelines, even if they brought the army in.
They government don't have to manpower to enforce these guidelines, even if they brought the army in.
scotrail158713
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Sounds like passengers are acting as normal then. Some people are never happy.
telstarbox
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Not what I've seen (and I'm well away from the tourist hotspots).
PG
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Can't imagine too many people would stand around to argue the toss if the army were to be used to disperse any overcrowded areas.
Even if this were only done selectively I think it would make folks far less likely to congregate if they thought they might get rounded up by the troups!
There is no way the army will do enforcement on the streets unless there was sustained out of control rioting across the country.
They backfill guarding the off street stuff (power stations, Whitehall etc), and their own facilities so that MODplod can help the civilian forces.
They backfill guarding the off street stuff (power stations, Whitehall etc), and their own facilities so that MODplod can help the civilian forces.
Geordie driver
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Deleted, going round in circles!
apologies that is correct. I live at the top of Bolton Road by the gym and leisure centre and both 640/641 stop there so hence the 15 minute Sunday service comment.
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Picnicking in Brockwell Park?
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This fits from the service 43, 134, 263, 144, W7 etc buses which I have seen.
Same around here (20 / 179 / 123 / W12-14 / N55). Mate of mine drives the 73 route from Stamford Hill depot and he said he's carting around 99% fresh air at both ends of the route (Stokey to Oxford Circus).
Same here. The busiest double-decker buses I have seen in the past three weeks have had roughly fifteen passengers on board. Most buses have had passengers in single figures.
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'Shower curtain' for protection?
www.itv.com
Bus drivers given ‘shower curtains’ to protect against coronavirus | ITV News
First South West Buses have been criticised for providing flexible plastic sheets to protect drivers from risk of infection. | ITV National News
bussnapperwm
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The RMT need to learn to wind their neck in. Maybe there is a perspex shortage due to every shop trying to get it fitted?'Shower curtain' for protection?
Bus drivers given ‘shower curtains’ to protect against coronavirus | ITV News
First South West Buses have been criticised for providing flexible plastic sheets to protect drivers from risk of infection. | ITV National News
Geordie driver
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RMT need to wind their neck in??!!!!!!!
You work in the industry? Given the low numbers of bus drivers employed there appears to be a heck of a high death rate from the virus, yet the RMT need to wind their neck in?
I won't say what I think of your opinion as I don't wish to be banned.
With all due sympathy, whilst they are obviously at a higher risk than being at home would bus drivers also fit in the other risk categories - age profile, health profile (driving a bus must be even less active than office work - we at least wander about to the printer, drinks machine, gossiping!), social group, ethnicity??
The unfortunate aspect of that though is that it sounds like they need to be shielded more than office workers yet it is not possible to afford them that shield. From that aspect the RMT have a point.
Geordie driver
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All the more reason they should be adequately protected then, surely?
You are right, stress and lack of exercise plus poor life style choices and often terrible working conditions are part of the reason bus drivers often die young. Mate of mine retired recently at 60 on a Friday, he died 3 days later.
bussnapperwm
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Did you not read the rest of my post? Maybe there is a shortage of perspex at the moment because every supermarket and other major business is trying to get some.
A shower curtain is a fairly reasonable alternative as a temporary measure until companies can obtain the perspex (it can be wiped down or be cleaned).
What more do you want? Passengers to be banned from buses because the mere act of breathing could pass Coronavirus on? Medical grade PPE?
Nearly every day you see yet another war mongering article from the RMT (and Unite!) trying to stir up trouble just to keep themselves relevant.
You don't see ASLEF, the GMB or Unison unions picking fights with these style press releases!
Bletchleyite
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What I'd like to see is "board at the rear" on dual door buses (I'm astonished it has taken this long for London to even try this; the Dutch introduced it very early), and spare dual door buses in London moved to the regions to allow this elsewhere.
bussnapperwm
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It's all well and good doing that, but what about the likes of Rotala, National Express and First or small operators who don't have London operations (nxwm do, at least, have bandit screens - and have done for years!)
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Sorry bu can't do it everywhere so shouldn't do itanywhere is not a reason for not doing it where possible.
bussnapperwm
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I'm not saying that, I'm just saying how would the operators who don't have London ops be able to do loans from London without paying a fortune/having unfamiliar vehicles?
Bletchleyite
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Yes, but every company that can do it should be doing it, surely?
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For me with lots of vehicles sat in depots across the country it should be looked at(along with moving double door vehicles if not used in London to other areas).
It's a national emergency so I'm certain the operators could work it between them-especially those who will be financially assisted by the government.
Logistically it's a big job to move them but I suspect some areas PVR must be exceptionally low right now and a quick 'call for help' from the industry leaders to help move vehicles so drivers go to work with less risk would reap some results.
Doing nothing isn't an option.
It's a national emergency so I'm certain the operators could work it between them-especially those who will be financially assisted by the government.
Logistically it's a big job to move them but I suspect some areas PVR must be exceptionally low right now and a quick 'call for help' from the industry leaders to help move vehicles so drivers go to work with less risk would reap some results.
Doing nothing isn't an option.
Geordie driver
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Yes I read your post. I asked you a direct question which you have ignored so I assume the answer is no. Anyone with any knowledge of the industry will know these curtains will not last 5 minutes in service.
What I want is companies to take their responsibilities to their staff seriously, zero ppe, still handling cash, cut every corner to save a few quid is how the industry has responded in many cases.
I know FOR A FACT that companies have been lying on Facebook about how they are supporting their staff.
It's not the RMT that needs to wind it's neck in.
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