Btw why does stagecoach not use Ribble as a legal identity any more? Many thanks
He said ‘not use’Seems to be Stagecoach's "thing" to do that, e.g.
Cambridge = Cambus Ltd
Warwickshire = Midland Red (South)
Manchester = GM Buses (South)
Cumbria = Cumberland Motor Services
Etc...
From North to South (ish) with disposal.....Does anyone know which original Ribble bus depots are now still in use within Merseyside, Lancs, Cheshire and Greater Manchester? Thanks
Cumbria = Cumberland Motor Services
And the northern part is "Stagecoach (North West) Limited", not Cumberland Motor Services Ltd (although the former is the latter renamed).Basically when Stagecoach in Lancashire had the reorganisation and was split between Merseyside and Cumbria, the southern part ended up folded into Glenvale Transport Limited
Blackpool DR, became a car showroom, before becoming an Lidl store.From North to South (ish) with disposal.....
Bowness - private use https://www.google.com/maps/@54.953...4!1s763TBwFNRT2xsAC95rcFqg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Carlisle - still in use with Stagecoach
Penrith - demolished (now Booths supermarket but was used as a furniture store)
Ambleside - demolished (retail units)
Kendal - still in use with Stagecoach
Ulverston - Ford dealership
Appleby - demolished
Morecambe - demolished (now an Asda)
Lancaster - demolished (flats)
Garstang - demolished (housing)
Preston - still in use with Stagecoach
Fleetwood - demolished (housing)
Blackpool TR - timber depot
Blackpool DR - demolished (housing I think)
Blackburn - closed; private use (?)
Burnley - demolished (Tesco)
Skipton - private use (was Pennine MS)
Clitheroe - demolished (housing)
Chorley - closed - don't know current status
Bolton - still in use Arriva
Manchester - demolished (flats)
Bury - use as garage workshop
Southport - demolished (Morrisons)
Ormskirk - tyre depot
Liverpool - demolished (student accom)
Skelmersdale - pallet firm
Wigan - private use (?)
Aintree - demolished (but offices still use with Arriva, as said)
Bootle 1 - demolished
Bootle 2 - still in use with Arriva
ThanksBlackpool DR, became a car showroom, before becoming an Lidl store.
Does anybody know where the following Ribble Depots listed were actually located:?
Ambleside
Ulverston
Appleby
Lancaster
Blackpool TR
Blackpool DR
Bury
Ormskirk
Liverpool
Wigan
Bootle 1
Blackburn
As for Southport I thought were Morrisons is wasnt a bus depot but where the other Railway Station used to be.
Thanks for the update.Skipton became a carpet showroom I believe.
From North to South (ish) with disposal.....
Bowness - private use https://www.google.com/maps/@54.953...4!1s763TBwFNRT2xsAC95rcFqg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Carlisle - still in use with Stagecoach
Penrith - demolished (now Booths supermarket but was used as a furniture store)
Ambleside - demolished (retail units)
Kendal - still in use with Stagecoach
Ulverston - Ford dealership
Appleby - demolished
Morecambe - demolished (now an Asda)
Lancaster - demolished (flats)
Garstang - demolished (housing)
Preston - still in use with Stagecoach
Fleetwood - demolished (housing)
Blackpool TR - timber depot
Blackpool DR - demolished (housing I think)
Blackburn - closed; private use (?)
Burnley - demolished (Tesco)
Skipton - private use (was Pennine MS)
Clitheroe - demolished (housing)
Chorley - closed - don't know current status
Bolton - still in use Arriva
Manchester - demolished (flats)
Bury - use as garage workshop
Southport - demolished (Morrisons)
Ormskirk - tyre depot
Liverpool - demolished (student accom)
Skelmersdale - pallet firm
Wigan - private use (?)
Aintree - demolished (but offices still use with Arriva, as said)
Bootle 1 - demolished
Bootle 2 - still in use with Arriva
The site of Southport garage is now a Travelodge, the Morrisons supermarket having relocated to a bigger site on what was the Pleasureland coach park.
Ribble had two garages in Blackburn. Foundry Hill which came with the Pendle Motors business was used for coaches plus the double decker allocated to X3 running. A newbuild at George Street East was used for the stage carriage vehicles.
Foundry Hill was demolished to make way for a Morrisons supermarket. George Street East passed through Stagecoach into Transdev hands when it was renamed Manner Sutton Street.
After Transdev acquired Blackburn Transport the fleet was consolidated at their Intack depot and Manner Sutton Street was closed but the building is still in use.
Pub trivia - there was also a George Street West in Blackburn which housed the garage and offices of Ribblesdale Batty Holt.
That's correct - Autys had originally been associated with Spencers but they went their own separate ways. Ribble saw the acquisition of Autys as an opportunity to gain more picking up points for their Extended Tours which they rebranded Kingfisher. Drivers from Manchester and Bolton were transferred over for the summer to assist with the tours.Some extra detail that I was unaware of and thanks for clarifying Southport.
I believe that Bury depot was similarly acquired with Auty's Tours (?) and was also used as a coach depot primarily.
Centenary Way Burnley garage opened in 1958 replacing Trafalgar Street (AK-buses) and Olympia (CA-coaches) It had a working life of 30 years, by which time the Pendleside stage carriage operations had been decimated by deregulation and the former Ribble/Standerwick coach operations had been sold to Amberline. By the time Stagecoach took over only the vehicles for the 743 were based in Burnley at Queensgate. For all other purposes Burnley had become an out staion of Clitheroe.Funnily enough, mentioning Burnley, Ribble had buses outstationed at the Burnley & Pendle depot, mostly vehicles for the 743, now X43, not sure when the Ribble Burnley depot closed
Southport depot was combined with the bus station and it was located in the old railway station on Lord Street after it ceased to be a train shed
Ambleside - Compston Road
Ulverston - The Ellers
Appleby - Station Yard
Lancaster - Owen Road (near Skerton Bridge)
Blackpool TR - Talbot Road
Blackpool DR - Devonshire Road
Bury - Millett Street
Ormskirk - Knowsley Road
Liverpool - Skelhorne Street
Wigan - Wallgate
Bootle 1 - Hawthorne Road (about 300m along the road from the Arriva depot)
Blackburn - Manor Sutton Street
That's correct - Autys had originally been associated with Spencers but they went their own separate ways. Ribble saw the acquisition of Autys as an opportunity to gain more picking up points for their Extended Tours which they rebranded Kingfisher. Drivers from Manchester and Bolton were transferred over for the summer to assist with the tours.
A couple of other observations - Manchester depot in Hulme Hall Road was inherited from North Western. Ribble's own Manchester garage was in Trumpet Street behind Lower Mosley Street Bus Station. It's now under the Jurys hotel.
And for the avoidance of any doubt Ribble's Appleby out station was the former goods shed at Appleby East (LNER) station. By coincidence Stagecoach now outstation a vehicle in the former goods yard of Appleby West (MR) station. Penrith also had outstations at Kirkoswald (Lace's garage) for two vehicles and Kirkby Stephen (Johnstone's garage) for one.
Thanks to all for helping to build this store of knowledge.
Centenary Way Burnley garage opened in 1958 replacing Trafalgar Street (AK-buses) and Olympia (CA-coaches) It had a working life of 30 years, by which time the Pendleside stage carriage operations had been decimated by deregulation and the former Ribble/Standerwick coach operations had been sold to Amberline. By the time Stagecoach took over only the vehicles for the 743 were based in Burnley at Queensgate. For all other purposes Burnley had become an out staion of Clitheroe.
Wasn't other Bootle depot used as the Liverline depot, think it became the Arriva body repair shop before closing
The site of Southport garage is now a Travelodge, the Morrisons supermarket having relocated to a bigger site on what was the Pleasureland coach park.
The street plan shows the Morrisons address as "Winter Gardens" which had been the site of the original bus station whilst the CLC line into Southport was still open. With the railway going the site outside of the station building was redeveloped for coach parking and there was also a Model Visage. It's a nice touch that the clock tower still stands - I assume that the frontage to the station has listed status.There is indeed now a Travelodge in the Lord Street frontage and a new block behind it, which I gather would have been on the site of the former station and Ribble garage. The Morrisons store is behind the left-hand side of that frontage and starts at roughly the end of the Travelodge's new block, so would presumably also be on part of the site? For a town I used to visit a lot with my parents, the Ribble presence seems to completely escape my memory!
The entrance to Morrison's large car park is from the seaward side (either Esplanade or Victoria Way) so I assume this is the area that was used as a coach park after its railway use was over?
Ingleton had been an outstation of Lancaster depot. The property was owned by Pennine Motor Services who were Ribble's joint operators on the Skipton-Lancaster group of services. Joint operation was outlawed under deregulation and the relationship faded away, especially after Pennine shrank its service to operate between Skipton and Giggleswick only. Stagecoach still have a limited presence in Ingleton on school and college contracts. The current fleetcard shows two buses outstationed at Ingleton although I confess to not knowing exactly where the location is.Is there still an out station at Ingleton?
The building on the A65 appears to have been sold. Could they be stabled overnight at Bibbys Coaches?Ingleton had been an outstation of Lancaster depot. The property was owned by Pennine Motor Services who were Ribble's joint operators on the Skipton-Lancaster group of services. Joint operation was outlawed under deregulation and the relationship faded away, especially after Pennine shrank its service to operate between Skipton and Giggleswick only. Stagecoach still have a limited presence in Ingleton on school and college contracts. The current fleetcard shows two buses outstationed at Ingleton although I confess to not knowing exactly where the location is.