reading the specs for one of the proposed HS2 rolling socks the Velaro Novo its car length is really long at 28.75m and that got me thinking what is the longest carriage/wagon in common use in the UK and where can they go?
A requirement of HS2 is 25.0m intermediate vehicles. The Siemens bid is based on Velaro Turkey (25.0m) not Velaro Novo...reading the specs for one of the proposed HS2 rolling stocks the Velaro Novo its car length is really long at 28.75m and that got me thinking what is the longest carriage/wagon in common use in the UK and where can they go?
There's a 12-axle nuclear flask wagon that travels between Sellafield and Thurso where the rail bogies are removed and road bogies attached for the last few miles to Dounreay. It was made by Head Wrightson. I've seen it a few times but can't find it by a web search.
There's a 12-axle nuclear flask wagon that travels between Sellafield and Thurso where the rail bogies are removed and road bogies attached for the last few miles to Dounreay. It was made by Head Wrightson. I've seen it a few times but can't find it by a web search.
There was a time that such wagons made regular trips on BR metals so, unless we are restricted to present day operations, they can also be counted.If you include industrial internal wagons, you'd have to go a long way to get a bigger wagon than the molten-slag torpedo wagons which, if the brain cells are still working, weighed in at something like 250 - 350 tons. Many years ago I saw a couple underway on Teesside on the British Steel internal system.
When I saw them they were on their way towards where the slag was tipped leaving the steelworks behind them. I suppose they could have been carrying some ‘out of spec’ steel.There was a time that such wagons made regular trips on BR metals so, unless we are restricted to present day operations, they can also be counted.
ps. Its wasn't molten slag they carried but liquid metal (not sure if iron or steel).
25720 overall length. 25300 over body length. 19000 bogie centres. 2845 width. Reference: Channel Tunnel Trains. Peter Semmens and Yves Machefert-Tassin. ISBN 1 872009 33 6. Eurotunnel 1994.How long is the Eurotunnel "Le Shuttle" "Club Car"? Looks like a conventional continental carriage, which would suggest a length of 26.4m - but it's nigh on impossible to find much data on it, nevermind photos (because at least there's a chance the length is marked on the side).
Very limited range - the tunnel, and loading areas, I suppose.
A WIA (WIA-A, WIE789) measures 66.365 m (218 ft). The five articulated sections form one vehicle - one painted number. I suspect that the various IEP-thingies, while a lot longer, are composed of several separate vehicles.WIAs are pretty long, albeit articulated in five sections. https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/W-Tops-codes/WIA/
See post #4....How long is the KUA flask wagon? The only quote I can find in a quick search is "over 80ft"
Apologies, missed that one. I guess it looks long because of the eight-axle arrangement, but that's probably more about bearing the weight within the permitted axle loads.See post #4....
You may find the wagon is at Locomotion in ShildonProbably long gone now but in the early 1970s I remember seeing a pic of a boiler-carrying wagon in a mag, in the days when the railways still carried abnormal loads. From memory it was designated 'Boiler VB'
Thanks, that takes that one out of the race.25720 overall length. 25300 over body length. 19000 bogie centres. 2845 width. Reference: Channel Tunnel Trains. Peter Semmens and Yves Machefert-Tassin. ISBN 1 872009 33 6. Eurotunnel 1994.
i was thinking more non-articulated units cause was thinking more of platform clearance but if going with articulated 373 half sets coach rakes must take the biscuit at 174.5mThanks, that takes that one out of the race.
If articulated units (e.g. jacobs bogies) were to count: the class 777 is 64.98m, which is beaten by the WIA already mentioned in this thread. But the class 755/4 at 80.7m trumps them both.
Yes, indeed - this is the beast. Actually a Boiler EB, not VB.You may find the wagon is at Locomotion in Shildon
So in reality, as long as whatever boiler it is carrying!Yes, indeed - this is the beast. Actually a Boiler EB, not VB.
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