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GBRf acquire three Swedish '66s'

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What was done at Longport?

A thorough mechanical overhaul in including engine and bogies, fitment of UK Safety systems including UK Style BMAC lights & relocation of the Horns, and a redesign of the air dam. I noticed that the fuel tank has had a UK type filler cap added as well. I believe the cab air con modules were removed before entering the UK.
 

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A thorough mechanical overhaul in including engine and bogies, fitment of UK Safety systems including UK Style BMAC lights & relocation of the Horns, and a redesign of the air dam. I noticed that the fuel tank has had a UK type filler cap added as well. I believe the cab air con modules were removed before entering the UK.

Thank you! I guess the air condition was removed earlier, otherwise the first low bridge would have removed them…
 

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Anyone have any details on when the two ex swedish 66's will be returning from Eastleigh with their freshly painted livery's ? - There was a movement yesterday, which turned out to be 66751 light engine to Peterborough.
 

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not sure if it's been confirmed before but it's in the new livery.

Looking like it's straight out of the box :)
 

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I've heard a rumor of GBRf acquiring some more 66's from Europe (Germany?). Does anyone know any more details?
 

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I've heard a rumor of GBRf acquiring some more 66's from Europe (Germany?). Does anyone know any more details?
66793 - 66797 have appeared in the GBRf MBDL pool on TOPS, so they appear to be planning for five to be coming from somewhere...
 

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I've heard a rumor of GBRf acquiring some more 66's from Europe (Germany?). Does anyone know any more details?

5 German 66’s will make their way over here in the next few weeks with a spring 2021 time frame to be put into service. 2 of them are low geared 60mph variants.
 

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I've heard a rumor of GBRf acquiring some more 66's from Europe (Germany?). Does anyone know any more details?

Reported as five from Germany with two of them being heavy haul variants, due over here fairly soon but, obviously, won't be available for some months
 

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How come they are short? I assumed the collapse of coal haulage would have left spare traction??
 

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How come they are short? I assumed the collapse of coal haulage would have left spare traction??
They're not currently short, it's more a move looking ahead to increased work they anticipate needing to resource in the future, particularly HS2 contracts.
 

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How come they are short? I assumed the collapse of coal haulage would have left spare traction??
Unless things have changed, no modern high powered diesel freight loco, with its exhaust scrubbers etc, can fit within the UK loading gauge.

Grandfather rights enable UK freight companies to buy secondhand 66s etc. As European railways buy newer locos, expect to see more of this until the impasse is solved.
 

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Unless things have changed, no modern high powered diesel freight loco, with its exhaust scrubbers etc, can fit within the UK loading gauge.

Grandfather rights enable UK freight companies to buy secondhand 66s etc. As European railways buy newer locos, expect to see more of this until the impasse is solved.
The 66’s weren’t very fuel efficient as I understand it....but does the lack of latest fuel inefficient scrubbing malarkey mean that they relatively aren't that bad now?
 

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Reported as five from Germany with two of them being heavy haul variants, due over here fairly soon but, obviously, won't be available for some months

Might be ready sooner than the other three. These latest five apparently do not have so many variations from their UK cousins, air-conditioning kit on the roof not there. Apparently they are from the same batch as other 66s that came straight to the UK. The (two ?) lower geared ones were apparently converted from standard ratio so perhaps the original gears are available for reinstatement. That is assuming GBRF would prefer them as standard ratio.
 

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Might be ready sooner than the other three. These latest five apparently do not have so many variations from their UK cousins, air-conditioning kit on the roof not there. Apparently they are from the same batch as other 66s that came straight to the UK. The (two ?) lower geared ones were apparently converted from standard ratio so perhaps the original gears are available for reinstatement. That is assuming GBRF would prefer them as standard ratio.

Wait...
Just to let me check that I read this right...
Swedish locos get sold to the UK. The UK, on average, has a slightly warmer/milder climate than Sweden. And then in the UK they _remove_ the cab airconditioners?
 

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Wait...
Just to let me check that I read this right...
Swedish locos get sold to the UK. The UK, on average, has a slightly warmer/milder climate than Sweden. And then in the UK they _remove_ the cab airconditioners?
Yes, because they are mounted on the roof, so come the first low bridge they would be removed anyway.
 

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Wait...
Just to let me check that I read this right...
Swedish locos get sold to the UK. The UK, on average, has a slightly warmer/milder climate than Sweden. And then in the UK they _remove_ the cab airconditioners?
Yep. Its a loading gauge issue. As that's not a problem in continental europe, many have Air Con fitted, such as the latter ones classified as 77 in places like France.
 

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Might be ready sooner than the other three. These latest five apparently do not have so many variations from their UK cousins, air-conditioning kit on the roof not there. Apparently they are from the same batch as other 66s that came straight to the UK. The (two ?) lower geared ones were apparently converted from standard ratio so perhaps the original gears are available for reinstatement. That is assuming GBRF would prefer them as standard ratio.

The two low geared 66's I understand are staying that way.
 

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Maximum height of the loading gauge is 3965mm ARL (Above Rail Level).

Obviously with exception for pantographs on electric locos/trainsets, but this might be part of the explanation why most UK electric locos had only one pantograph?
 
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