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Carmont (near Stonehaven) derailment - 12 August 2020
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They will have plenty of experience in difficult rescues in tough locations.
In an emergency, you take any assistance you can get.
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So shocked and saddened to hear this. My thoughts are with everyone onboard and at ScotRail
Steddenm
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The coastguard are emergency services and have a lot of experience in this. As far as i can gather the Coastguard Helicopter is helping with efforts. It is in a place where road access can be tricky at the best of times but as Stonehaven also flooded last night it isn't making life easier for the crews.
Scot Ambo Control have apparently asked for assistance from the air ambo from the NE and NW of England and NI.
yes train was running back after encountering a landslip, the location where it derailed could have been dislodged by anything after the train initailly passed hence why it was caught out on the way back. News from the scene is that is 3 crew and 6 passengers as indicated above. One crew member was at the local signal box and has been taken to hospital. that is all I can find out at present
Yes, so it must have only just happened
BTP are saying they were called at 09:43.
What we know is that the 0638 Aberdeen - Queen Street has come off the tracks in the vicinity of Stonehaven. Two fatalities have been confirmed. Everything else, so far, is either speculation or unconfirmed.
Murray J
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yeah, the north west air ambulance has deployed to the scene going by flightradars.
Speculating - and that's the word - on BBC News at the moment that recent heavy rain may have caused a landslip, which resulted in derailment.
I'm praying for all those involved.
I'm praying for all those involved.
Source: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12381187/train-aberdeenshire-stonehaven-derailed/
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XCTurbostar
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This image is on Twitter of the overbridge with a powercar which appears to be intact.
43030 is the PC nearest.
Image obtained from Twitter for discussion only.
43030 is the PC nearest.
Image obtained from Twitter for discussion only.
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A Challenge
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What is that thing in front of the HST power car by the tree?
Looks like either a part of the bridge parapet or a tree branch.
Speed43125
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Does anyone know if that section of line is single track?
Parapet appears demolished & wire fence atop damaged
XCTurbostar
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Nope it’s double.
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It looks to me like part of the skirting from a Mk3. The wire fence over the bridge is damaged also.
Esker-pades
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Only section of single track is between Usan and Montrose on that line.
Double track.
Speed43125
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Thanks
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No, double track.
edwin_m
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Seems to me the "delay" between the train's departure at 0638 and the accident being reported at 0943 could be entirely explained by the time needed to stop at the reported landslip, decide to return to Aberdeen and put the necessary arrangements in place for wrong line running. It doesn't necessarily mean there was a delay in alerting emergency services once it happened.
It's double-track. The only single track section is between Usan and Montrose.
LNW-GW Joint
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I'm afraid we are being news-managed, always a bad sign.
Fatalities have not yet been confirmed.
Nicola Sturgeon had just said it's a very serious incident and that there are "serious injuries".
The BBC reporter on the spot is still not saying any more.
No close or aerial pictures.
Thoughts to those involved.
Ascot
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Careful. Sky News have just quoted this site as a source of their information. Paraphrasing “Rail Uk as an online forum for trainspotters”.
Scotrail314209
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Yep just heard that. Think we should all be careful what we say/post on here.
Chris M
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The foot of the embankment in the foreground also looks to have very recently failed. Unlikely to be causal to the incident given the extent, but worthy of note.
Belfast Live also quoting from the forum. Probably many others as well.
Can we have at least one day on this forum where the reactions of those involved aren’t questioned?
Condolences to the Families who have lost loved ones. Worst We’ve had as an incident for many years.
@Darandio any of the reach stable will do the same - Manc evening news etc
Condolences to the Families who have lost loved ones. Worst We’ve had as an incident for many years.
@Darandio any of the reach stable will do the same - Manc evening news etc
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