If that is true, it must be a big budget blockbuster being filmed.
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If that is true, it must be a big budget blockbuster being filmed.
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I can’t get my head around it.
Has anyone seen 70013 recently?
I think what @RichT54 said in the above post is quite plausible.
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For starting from scratch, I still don't understand why 'they' didn't go straight for something to replicate what they want, rather than replicate something done up to resemble what they want. I mean, I know it's someone else's money and they can spend it on what they want, but why? Unless it's an important plot point in a film that a British loco has to wander round France in disguise, I suppose.
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There was a loco built from scratch a few years ago for a Poirot remake, possibly Murder on Orient Express? Think that loco ended up somewhere near Keswick. A mate of mine worked on the film and told me why they built it from scratch but can't remember reason. If anyone interested I'll try and find out.
Have a look at http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/bassenthwaite_lake/index8.html which shows how this Poirot mock-up has been installed at this former station NW of Keswick.
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Perhaps it is 70013 frames cab and tender being used for film whilst the real boiler is being rebuilt? This would need permission from NRM though, but may raise money to help with the costs of getting back into service?
edwin_m
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I suspect whoever designed this has taken a look at a few photos of steam locos, probably mainly Britannias, and just cobbled something together that looks French to them. I'm sure we can all recall our favourite examples of railway scenes in films that are inauthentic or just plain impossible...
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I've had some replies from the WW2 Talk Forum, and they're very interesting, but sadly no-one so far has been able to come up with any information.
I have been able to establish, though, that there isn't a remake of The Train completed or in production at the moment - or, if it is, it's going by a different title, which I've not been able to find.
I have been able to establish, though, that there isn't a remake of The Train completed or in production at the moment - or, if it is, it's going by a different title, which I've not been able to find.
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The boiler of 70013 was still in the Lbro yard last week and the frames have been re-wheeled and are in the shed. So I think it is safe to say the "French" loco is not 70013.I can’t get my head around it.
Has anyone seen 70013 recently?
I think what @RichT54 said in the above post is quite plausible.
Thanks Phil.
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Someone on the WW2 Talk Forum has now suggested this: "I now think that the most probable explanation for the mocked up train is previous, cancelled, and future "1940s Wartime Weekend" events that the Great Central Railway run."
I've replied: "You might be right, but the loco was first seen (by someone else) on a low loader going to the Great Central Railway where it now is. No-one on the forum that I'm referring to seems to have seen it before, so it's quite a mystery as to where it was and why it's gone to the GCR."
I think that this is a "Three-Pipe Problem", so we'll need to send for Sherlock Holmes!
I've replied: "You might be right, but the loco was first seen (by someone else) on a low loader going to the Great Central Railway where it now is. No-one on the forum that I'm referring to seems to have seen it before, so it's quite a mystery as to where it was and why it's gone to the GCR."
I think that this is a "Three-Pipe Problem", so we'll need to send for Sherlock Holmes!
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If it is a very expensive film "prop", then I'm sure that all those who "know", will be subject to "Confidentiality Clauses" until the film is released. So we will just have to try and make (slightly) informed guesses!
Understood. Speculating/ identifying/ discussing etc is so much fun/ challenge anyway. Thank you
The tender seems packed up, leaving room for a small amount of coal to be added on top. This is a great story, plenty of guesswork ahead and GCR definitely won't spill the beans.
Mind it is very difficult to hide a 150 ton 4-6-2 Pacific loco on the M1 and streets around Quorn, maybe they should have moved it in the middle of the night. or even disguised it SR-71 style.
Mind it is very difficult to hide a 150 ton 4-6-2 Pacific loco on the M1 and streets around Quorn, maybe they should have moved it in the middle of the night.
or even disguised it SR-71 style.
Sorry - didn’t know how to quote, and it just came up in my feed... but the links below are the one I was referring to
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There'd have to be a time travel element as well, for a loco so obviously based on a BR Standard to have gone back to 1944. But I agree it's odd to base a "French" loco on such an obviously British design, and one from a decade later at that.
Assuming it is purely a film prop, maybe it was built for an earlier film where it did appear as a Britannia? It would certainly be cheaper to add a few bits of platework to an existing replica than to build new.
I think my take on it is that one of the Brits was available to scan cheaply using a UK firm (bearing in mind the hassle of travelling abroad with a design team over the last few months), and accuracy isn’t all that important when you’re making a film as long as it looks ‘sort of right’ which to the average punter it probably will.
I think we’re all pretty desperate to know the full story though...
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It would be interesting to know who made this prop & how.
was there not a very convincing dummy Class 14 made for filming at the East Lancs a few years ago? Plus is there not the replica ‘Hall’ at some Harry Potter theme park?
Hoping there’s a movie to be made sometime involving a dummy North British Class 21....
was there not a very convincing dummy Class 14 made for filming at the East Lancs a few years ago? Plus is there not the replica ‘Hall’ at some Harry Potter theme park?
Hoping there’s a movie to be made sometime involving a dummy North British Class 21....
Only reason I can think of for building a replica based on a real (but inappropriate) loco is that the replica gets destroyed in filming, but they also want to show it in steam, using an actual Brit with some temporarily added panels. Although it would probably be easier to push the replica with another loco and add a steam generator. Or do the whole thing with CGI
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That is quite true, bridge 341 is being replaced, but they are only closing that section from Aug 31st to Sept 14th (approx). They are also running the DMU set(s?) up to Mountsorrel.
I presume they could do quite a lot of filming at Loughborough Station and down to the A6 bridge in the meantime?
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Very interesting reading all this so far, and the pictures on the Twitter link were very interesting too.
Hopefully whatever it turns out to be being used for, will be a decent/worthwhile venture. That's a lot of money to spend on such a Replica otherwise!
Hopefully whatever it turns out to be being used for, will be a decent/worthwhile venture. That's a lot of money to spend on such a Replica otherwise!
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Someone on National Preservation is reporting that the loco is powered by a Scania engine in the tender and it has three steam generators, an electricity generator and a steam boiler in the boiler. Someone on the WNXX forum is reporting that the loco is being tested on the GCR but the actual filming will take place overseas.
Whilst driving over Rothley bridge this morning, I nearly diverted into the yard to see if RVP were undertaking any disguise work on rolling stock. If the French Brit replica is going to haul trains it will require stock of some kind, perhaps there is a giant canon on a special wagon hiding away at Swithland.
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This "locomotive" was propelled down to Quorn today as part of its trials/running in. There is no sign of any other rolling stock being disguised. Rothley has been part cleared to accept the 2 DMU sets and a diesel to be based there, whilst bridge 341 is out.
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