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The "NSE inspired" one with LNR colours I reckon. Horizontal elements in train liveries look nicer than vertical ones in my book; door highlighting is a "necessary evil" in terms of appearance and so I wouldn't add more.
Most definitely, door highlighting does result in some compromise in design eg: the BR Blue 313201 with it's all grey doors instad of the original br scheme.

Definitely and I will be very interested to hear of their response!
I was only joking you know! :lol: Although I'm tempted to send it though.

The BR blue thing is interesting, given that the 350/1s started their life in reverse BR blue (grey with a blue window stripe and doors).
What, like this? ;)
Made this quickly so it's not 100% accurate but it's a good representation.
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The 350/1s are almost fully refurbished now see this thread for more on this - https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-350-1-refurbishment.178890/

350/2s (the scruffy 350's that need a wash! :lol: ) are going to be off leased and replaced by 730s in 2021/22.

350/3s I believe are having a refurb later on down the line

350/4s are also having a refurb at some point

350/3s & /4's are unlikely to be done until at least all of the /1s are done.
Thanks for letting me know! They're not so bad, I think it was a 350/2 :) I caught a 319 yesterday to Watford Junction, one of the stopping service, and that was even grubbier! Traction motor thrash and loud hum as it tries to draw power reminded me of the 317's :o I was surprised that there's quite a few of the 319's about. There was a curious white one with blue doors that I saw pull into platform 10 at Watford Junction yesterday...
 

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As were no longer in Europe and silly rules like painting doors daft colours no longer apply, why not.. :( aaaa... aaaahh

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As were no longer in Europe and silly rules like painting doors daft colours no longer apply, why not.. aaaa... aaaahh

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Door contrast was introduced with RVAR which was a UK law - PRM TSI just continued it. Interestingly, though, DB still haven't got contrasting doors on IC and ICE stock.
 

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Interestingly, though, DB still haven't got contrasting doors on IC and ICE stock.
They have - they’re adding a thick black line around the edge of the doors. This fulfils the PRM TSI requirement for marking the door.
 

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Thanks for letting me know! They're not so bad, I think it was a 350/2 :) I caught a 319 yesterday to Watford Junction, one of the stopping service, and that was even grubbier! Traction motor thrash and loud hum as it tries to draw power reminded me of the 317's :o I was surprised that there's quite a few of the 319's about. There was a curious white one with blue doors that I saw pull into platform 10 at Watford Junction yesterday...
319's are awesome. Yes they're grubby, but I love the loud motor trash and hum they sound great. LNWR has 15 319's so they're quite common. 350's sound great from outside but dead silent inside which is boring. The 'curious' white one in WFJ plat 10 is I believe one that had been taken off the Abbey line for the weekly unit swap.
 

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319's are awesome. Yes they're grubby, but I love the loud motor trash and hum they sound great. LNWR has 15 319's so they're quite common. 350's sound great from outside but dead silent inside which is boring. The 'curious' white one in WFJ plat 10 is I believe one that had been taken off the Abbey line for the weekly unit swap.
Not sure about dead silent inside as the Class 350s have very noisy air con compared to the XC 170s and EMR 222s I travel on. Also last year had the pleasure of a Class 350/2 with 2+3 seating on a very busy Liverpool-Birmingham service one Sunday lunchtime. Sunday service is hourly on Sundays compared to half hourly in the week.
 

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Not sure about dead silent inside as the Class 350s have very noisy air con compared to the XC 170s and EMR 222s I travel on. Also last year had the pleasure of a Class 350/2 with 2+3 seating on a very busy Liverpool-Birmingham service one Sunday lunchtime. Sunday service is hourly on Sundays compared to half hourly in the week.
And I hope 'pleasure' was in jest!
 

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I think your definition of 'awesome' isn't that of most people.......
Yes I may have been a little too excited about a 319 but 350's are broing, what more can I say. If the 319s were nicely kept & maintained, I think people wouldn't mind them too much.
 

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Most definitely, door highlighting does result in some compromise in design eg: the BR Blue 313201 with it's all grey doors instad of the original br scheme.


I was only joking you know! :lol: Although I'm tempted to send it though.


What, like this? ;)
Made this quickly so it's not 100% accurate but it's a good representation.
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Can I ask where you got those diagrams from please? :)
 

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Can I ask where you got those diagrams from please? :)
I made it but as the one you saw isn't fully complete or accurate it's not one I would publish as it's not up to my normal standard of accurracy or detail. I'm in the process of making a few diagrams at the moment. I'm also going to be busy with college this week so won't have much time to do work on them.
 

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I made it but as the one you saw isn't fully complete or accurate it's not one I would publish as it's not up to my normal standard of accurracy or detail. I'm in the process of making a few diagrams at the moment. I'm also going to be busy with college this week so won't have much time to do work on them.
Alright, no problem

I made it but as the one you saw isn't fully complete or accurate it's not one I would publish as it's not up to my normal standard of accurracy or detail. I'm in the process of making a few diagrams at the moment. I'm also going to be busy with college this week so won't have much time to do work on them.
Nevermind, found it on wikipedia :)
 
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If they're lightly loaded (up to about 50% loading) I don't mind the /2s too much TBH, in particular legroom in the facing bays is excellent. Though they really do need coffee shelves.
Agreed, they're ok on a quiet-ish or short trip. I groan in normal times if I get one southbound from Nuneaton or Rugby though.
 
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