A College Graduate American wanting to work for the Railways and Aerospace (Aviation), Remote Work if possible?

Brystar35 · 9 Dec 2020

Hi everybody my name is Bryant, I am from the United States, I am Hispanic part Colombian, I am wondering if there is by any chance that either Network Rail or the Railways and Airways will let a Foreigner work for their companies and agencies. I been in this group for a long time but hardly posted anything on here, because I am not familiar with British cultures and such but I do love and fascinated of the history of Railways and Aerospace of different countries, the UK being the biggest since the Modern Railways started in the UK.

Recently I have graduated of my Bachelor's Degree from MDC (Miami Dade College) of my BAS Supervision and Management in May 2020 and well "COVID" has kinda stopped everything, but I feel I want to keep on going forward despite of "COVID" and trying to find solutions for me to move on to the next chapter of my life, I want to go for my goals and dreams, wanting to go for my careers, to be able to travel often, help out my mother and more.

I am wondering if Network Rail will let foreigners work for their agencies by Remote work if Possible, I have my Passport, Driver License ready and all, don't know If I need a Work Visa or other entry process? Because I can come to the UK, obviously I have to wait till COVID subsides before doing so, and would love to visit the UK as well, and would like to work for Network Rail If there is a opportunities for International even if its Remote work.

I am planning on going for Aerospace (Aviation) as well for my Careers, trying to see if I can get an FAA License to start working with an Airline of sorts because I want to go for my Masters, its just that currently I am in Retail and its not where I see myself in the future, I am thinking ahead for my future and my careers, If I have to travel often I would love to do so and be away from home almost all the time, as long I can take my laptop and such I am good. I love to travel.

I am sorry for interrupting and I am not sure if this is the right place for it, but anyways I don't want to sit around and not do anything for the rest of my life, I want to keep going despite of "COVID". Any suggestions and advice is helpful, I accept Constructive Criticism, and I admit my writing is not the best but I am trying. Have a wonderful day or evening, not sure what time is it over there since I am across the Ocean in Florida and the Time difference is massive.

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16.19 · 9 Dec 2020

It sounds like you need to decide on a career on the railway or in aviation. Once you decide you can then apply yourself to that career.

tiptoptaff · 9 Dec 2020

Network Rail won't employ a foreign nation without right to work in the UK. They won't employ you to work remotely abroad. You would need to get a work visa and then apply, as they won't sponsor you

LCC106 · 9 Dec 2020

Many active posters in this section are looking to secure a career on the ground, so as conductor, driver, revenue assistant. A fair few more specifically apply for roles such as signaller or track operative with Network Rail. I suspect you may be better off approaching the recruitment teams at Network Rail or aerospace industries direct.
Rolls Royce is a massive aerospace player and they have recently gone through a large redundancy programme. I doubt that Network Rail would employ someone working remotely at such a distance from the UK. If you have a Google search you will find all the info you need for work permit requirements, possibly on Gov.uk

edwin_m · 9 Dec 2020

Network Rail employs a lot of people at graduate level and I don't think companies would discriminate against a foreigner with the right skills. However, you would have to qualify for immigration according to the rules set by the British state, which I'm not an expert on but this government is likely to tighten them. Basically you need to have skills that are seen (by the government) to be in short supply and/or would increase national prosperity, and I don't know if a graduate-level post would satisfy that. I agree with the previous poster that you should forget the idea of working remotely from across the Atlantic - employers wouldn't be interested except perhaps for a very senior role, an employee for a post in the UK would have to have the right to live here even if they were elsewhere most of the time, and there would probably be tax issues too.

I work in railway design for an American-based company with a global presence, which has taken on a lot of employees from elsewhere in the European Union but this will probably become more difficult now the UK is outside it. I have worked on projects in multiple countries, and there are opportunities to relocate by internal transfer to countries where more people are needed. This route will be far easier than trying to immigrate with no job to go to. If you can find a way into such a company in the States, and build up some experience so managers will see how your skills would benefit their operations, then in a few years you might be able to transfer in that way.

I don't know much about aerospace, but would joining an airline be a way to build a career that involves travel and ultimately relocation? However, as someone mentioned, the industry has undergone a massive shock this year (as has rail, though not quite so much) and I doubt many companies are thinking about recruitment.

Brystar35 · 9 Dec 2020

edwin_m said:
Network Rail employs a lot of people at graduate level and I don't think companies would discriminate against a foreigner with the right skills. However, you would have to qualify for immigration according to the rules set by the British state, which I'm not an expert on but this government is likely to tighten them. Basically you need to have skills that are seen (by the government) to be in short supply and/or would increase national prosperity, and I don't know if a graduate-level post would satisfy that. I agree with the previous poster that you should forget the idea of working remotely from across the Atlantic - employers wouldn't be interested except perhaps for a very senior role, an employee for a post in the UK would have to have the right to live here even if they were elsewhere most of the time, and there would probably be tax issues too.

I work in railway design for an American-based company with a global presence, which has taken on a lot of employees from elsewhere in the European Union but this will probably become more difficult now the UK is outside it. I have worked on projects in multiple countries, and there are opportunities to relocate by internal transfer to countries where more people are needed. This route will be far easier than trying to immigrate with no job to go to. If you can find a way into such a company in the States, and build up some experience so managers will see how your skills would benefit their operations, then in a few years you might be able to transfer in that way.

I don't know much about aerospace, but would joining an airline be a way to build a career that involves travel and ultimately relocation? However, as someone mentioned, the industry has undergone a massive shock this year (as has rail, though not quite so much) and I doubt many companies are thinking about recruitment.

Thank you, This is what I wanted to hear, I understand without the right papers and immigration I would not be able to work in the UK or live for that matter, I am glad that Network Rail and other companies don't look down on Foreigners.

I am aware about the Massive Shock like I said before I know about "COVID" But I do know that this will pass and we will slowly recover thus needing a future generation of workers.

I am wondering if my degree is good or not because I don't know if I spend the last few years getting a degree that wasn't worth it, because that makes me sad.

Also will applying to Hitachi, Siemens and Alstom help? They are International Companies from Japan, Germany and France Respectively but they do have their presence in the United States along with Stadler too, they are manufactures.

16.19 said:
It sounds like you need to decide on a career on the railway or in aviation. Once you decide you can then apply yourself to that career.

I have already decided its just I am exploring my options, I did not get a degree for nothing, I got it because I want to go for my careers in the Transportation Industry, But most likely it will be Aviation since I do love of it, its just I also love Railways as well so its something I am eyeing on as well, like a Fallback.

I am looking to work in the Aerospace or Railway with the Manufactures, but I am having a hard time applying, but currently I am planning on getting an FAA License next year maybe that will help or attending Embry-Riddle can help.

LCC106 said:
Many active posters in this section are looking to secure a career on the ground, so as conductor, driver, revenue assistant. A fair few more specifically apply for roles such as signaller or track operative with Network Rail. I suspect you may be better off approaching the recruitment teams at Network Rail or aerospace industries direct.
Rolls Royce is a massive aerospace player and they have recently gone through a large redundancy programme. I doubt that Network Rail would employ someone working remotely at such a distance from the UK. If you have a Google search you will find all the info you need for work permit requirements, possibly on Gov.uk

I am familiar with Rolls Royce they have their presence in the United States heck they are now collaborating with a US based company that is building Supersonic Airliners (About time too), so no matter with Remote Work its not possible for me then.

But overall I understand what is everybody is saying I have to get a Work Permit and a Visa to be able to work in the UK despite of it being Remote.

Rockhopper · 10 Dec 2020

If you have the right to live and work in the UK then you will have as much chance of getting a job with Network Rail as the next person has. Sort your paperwork out then get a job application in. Be aware that its very competitive though.

LCC106 · 10 Dec 2020

I suspect the likes of Siemens et al would be a better bet for you but as I am a driver I can’t be of more help in that area.

edwin_m · 10 Dec 2020

Brystar35 said:
I am wondering if my degree is good or not because I don't know if I spend the last few years getting a degree that wasn't worth it, because that makes me sad.

I'm not too sure what "BAS Supervision and Management" actually means and whether you have a specific technical skill or any on-the-ground experience in management. These issues are important to deciding your path, because most people start in a specific technical role and move into management later in their careers (if they do at all). Network Rail has recently-graduated people working in project management roles, but I imagine they would also need some subject knowledge to achieve that role successfully.

LSWR Cavalier · 10 Dec 2020

I should start by trying to get a railway job in the US, one could joint an international company/group and maybe get posted abroad later

Rockhopper · 10 Dec 2020

Another point with mentioning is that your US qualifications may well not be recognised in the UK if you are relying on a particular qualification to get a job.

RJ · 10 Dec 2020

Bryant,

There are large companies with comprehensive graduate programmes in place that will take on applicants from overseas if your qualifications meet the minimum requirements of the equivalent qualifications here.

I fear that some (but not all) of the responses you get here won't be targeted at someone looking at the type of work you're after. You may be able to get a bit further enquiring about international applications on The Student Room.

Best of luck with your future endeavours.

RJ

Emmsie · 10 Dec 2020

Brystar35 said:
Hi everybody my name is Bryant, I am from the United States, I am Hispanic part Colombian, I am wondering if there is by any chance that either Network Rail or the Railways and Airways will let a Foreigner work for their companies and agencies. I been in this group for a long time but hardly posted anything on here, because I am not familiar with British cultures and such but I do love and fascinated of the history of Railways and Aerospace of different countries, the UK being the biggest since the Modern Railways started in the UK.

Recently I have graduated of my Bachelor's Degree from MDC (Miami Dade College) of my BAS Supervision and Management in May 2020 and well "COVID" has kinda stopped everything, but I feel I want to keep on going forward despite of "COVID" and trying to find solutions for me to move on to the next chapter of my life, I want to go for my goals and dreams, wanting to go for my careers, to be able to travel often, help out my mother and more.

I am wondering if Network Rail will let foreigners work for their agencies by Remote work if Possible, I have my Passport, Driver License ready and all, don't know If I need a Work Visa or other entry process? Because I can come to the UK, obviously I have to wait till COVID subsides before doing so, and would love to visit the UK as well, and would like to work for Network Rail If there is a opportunities for International even if its Remote work.

I am planning on going for Aerospace (Aviation) as well for my Careers, trying to see if I can get an FAA License to start working with an Airline of sorts because I want to go for my Masters, its just that currently I am in Retail and its not where I see myself in the future, I am thinking ahead for my future and my careers, If I have to travel often I would love to do so and be away from home almost all the time, as long I can take my laptop and such I am good. I love to travel.

I am sorry for interrupting and I am not sure if this is the right place for it, but anyways I don't want to sit around and not do anything for the rest of my life, I want to keep going despite of "COVID". Any suggestions and advice is helpful, I accept Constructive Criticism, and I admit my writing is not the best but I am trying. Have a wonderful day or evening, not sure what time is it over there since I am across the Ocean in Florida and the Time difference is massive.

Believe it or not I also went to Miami Dade many moons ago. You won't get a job in the UK however Miami Dade certainly used to have a Professional Pilots course. You didn't need a Masters back then and I can't see that anything has changed so my advice to you is to look into that course if its still available. It does look as though the Campus has moved though as I'm sure it was based on NW 36th so possible that it's closed down. I graduated 97 so a long time ago.

Elwyn · 10 Dec 2020

Here’s the UK Government’s website which sets out the rules for non UK citizens seeking permission to work:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-immigration-system-what-you-need-to-know

The site says that a new points based system is being introduced for people wanting to work and you can sign up for up-dates as they are announced.

It’s illegal to give advice on UK immigration law unless you are a UK lawyer or a person registered with the relevant authority to give immigration advice. (That’s intended to exclude unscrupulous folk who charge vulnerable migrants large sums for poor advice). Immigration law can be complex so if you do seriously intend to find a job in the UK, you might find it helpful to get a UK lawyer who specializes in immigration work, or a UK immigration consultancy firm. They’ll help you deal with the intricacies. You can find them easily enough on the internet.

Brystar35 · 12 Dec 2020

Elwyn said:
Here’s the UK Government’s website which sets out the rules for non UK citizens seeking permission to work:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-immigration-system-what-you-need-to-know

The site says that a new points based system is being introduced for people wanting to work and you can sign up for up-dates as they are announced.

It’s illegal to give advice on UK immigration law unless you are a UK lawyer or a person registered with the relevant authority to give immigration advice. (That’s intended to exclude unscrupulous folk who charge vulnerable migrants large sums for poor advice). Immigration law can be complex so if you do seriously intend to find a job in the UK, you might find it helpful to get a UK lawyer who specializes in immigration work, or a UK immigration consultancy firm. They’ll help you deal with the intricacies. You can find them easily enough on the internet.

Thank you very helpful to know and I agree it looks to be a bit more complicated then I thought well I was just curious about it.

I already decided what am I going to do but One Day I do want to come to the UK and Ride the Railways When I become much more Successful in my careers to be able to travel often, but the UK is on my bucket list to explore.

TheEdge · 12 Dec 2020

LSWR Cavalier said:
I should start by trying to get a railway job in the US, one could joint an international company/group and maybe get posted abroad later

@Brystar35 if you wanted to try management via this route something in the Genesee & Wyoming family would be your best shot as it might be able to give you a route to Freightliner in the UK.

Alfonso · 12 Dec 2020

While you could get a job in the UK, it's unlikely to be easier than getting a job in the US, which is a huge aerospace and aviation market, has a large freight railway market, some urban passenger markets, and a very small but growing passenger market, you have the right to work there and your qualifications are valid and understood there. If you really want to work overseas there are always ways to do so, but it's likely to be easier when you have more/some relevant sector experience. Think of it from the recruiters point of view, unless there's a skills shortage, why would you go through the added administration and risk involved in an overseas hire?

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