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What's the point in internally refreshing & repainting 150s at the moment? I'd hardly say it's a priority right now, and if a significant number of Pacers are withdrawn in January, TfW surely won't be able to afford to send 150s away for unnecessary domestic interior work.

Just stick on the TfW logo and signage over the current turquoise livery (like they did with the Mk 3 carriages) and be done with it.
 
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Agreed. I have a feeling it was part of the franchise agreement, and likely contracts were signed to get them done. No doubt there will be a penalty to pay but hopefully with the looming WG involvement someone will have the common sense to say TfW can't afford to have a unit out of service for unnecessary works given the current fleet situation. Passengers were promised nearly 2 years ago that the Pacers would be gone and they are still stuck with them. I'm sure they'll cope with a turquoise paint job and still fairly decent interior on the 150s for another year or two. In the current situation, every unit counts.

158818 is due out this week. I'm sure all the 158s were complete when 158819 went in, but 2 more have been in since. Whats the latest with these or are they having different works?
 
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Caaardiff said:
158818 is due out this week. I'm sure all the 158s were complete when 158819 went in, but 2 more have been in since. Whats the latest with these or are they having different works?
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158819 was the last one to be repainted. They are now getting a refreshed interior, the last few in ATW livery, 819 included were refreshed and repainted at the same time.
Theres still 16 158s left with ATW interior (823-830/832/834/836-841)
 
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Ah! That makes sense. Well, it would've made more sense to get the interior done the same time as the repaint. But explains why they are still going in. Thanks.
 
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Agreed. I have a feeling it was part of the franchise agreement, and likely contracts were signed to get them done. No doubt there will be a penalty to pay but hopefully with the looming WG involvement someone will have the common sense to say TfW can't afford to have a unit out of service for unnecessary works given the current fleet situation. Passengers were promised nearly 2 years ago that the Pacers would be gone and they are still stuck with them. I'm sure they'll cope with a turquoise paint job and still fairly decent interior on the 150s for another year or two. In the current situation, every unit counts.

158818 is due out this week. I'm sure all the 158s were complete when 158819 went in, but 2 more have been in since. Whats the latest with these or are they having different works?
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It's not just the fact of having the 36 x 150s out of service for extended periods for the second time in 2 years. It's also the (in my opinion) unnecessary expense of getting the 150s done, when the franchise is effectively skint. The 150s weren't left in the terrible condition internally by Arriva that the 175s were, which did need refreshing internally. The franchise agreement signed two years ago with Keolis Amey is now effectively null and void. I doubt TfW will impose a fine on themselves for not spending a few thousand pounds they haven't got replacing seat coverings just for the sake of it.

Although saying all of this, it won't surprise me in the slightest if the 150s are refreshed & repainted at some point next year.
 
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It's not just the fact of having the 36 x 150s out of service for extended periods for the second time in 2 years. It's also the (in my opinion) unnecessary expense of getting the 150s done, when the franchise is effectively skint. The 150s weren't left in the terrible condition internally by Arriva that the 175s were, which did need refreshing internally. The franchise agreement signed two years ago with Keolis Amey is now effectively null and void. I doubt TfW will impose a fine on themselves for not spending a few thousand pounds they haven't got replacing seat coverings just for the sake of it.

Although saying all of this, it won't surprise me in the slightest if the 150s are refreshed & repainted at some point next year.
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There will be 2 x 150s in at one time and fleet numbers take into account absences for this type of work. As has been said already, there are franchise commitments and contracts and all TOCs, even if delayed in some cases, should be carrying their livery. Another point is that all units have to be re-painted after certain periods of time.
 
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175102 is on its way to Widnes now for refurb. 175103 should head back to Chester later
 
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Just curious if there is any updates to the big list?
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Sorry, I’ll get round to updating it at some point

67008 in TfW Livery

67014 in TfW livery

67017 in TfW livery

67025 in TfW livery

Modified to work with Mk4 Stock but not Re-liveried:

67010 in DB Livery

67015 in DB Livery



Class 143 Pacer 2-car (PRM Dispensation until Dec. 2020)

143601 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143602 The Start of a New Journey

143604 The Start of a New Journey

143605 These Trains will Terminate Soon

143606 These Trains will Terminate Soon

143607 The Start of a New Journey

143608 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143609 The Start of a New Journey

143610 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143614 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143616 These Trains will Terminate Soon

143622 These Trains will Terminate Soon

143623 These Trains will Terminate Soon

143624 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143625 The Start of a New Journey



Class 150/2 Sprinter 2-car

150208 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150213 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150217 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150227 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150229 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150230 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM WSP fitted

150231 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150235 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150236 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150237 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise (HoW 150th) & PRM, WSP fitted

150240 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM , WSP fitted

150241 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150242 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise (HoW 150th) & PRM WSP fitted

150245 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150250 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150251 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150252 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150253 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150254 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150255 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150256 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150257 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150258 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150259 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150260 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150262 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150264 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150267 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150278 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150279 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150280 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150281 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150282 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150283 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150284 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150285 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted



Class 153 Super Sprinter 1-car (Non-compliant units renumbered 153/9)

153303 TfW Rail W&B livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153312 TfW Rail W&B livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153320 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153323 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153325 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153327 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153329 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153333 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153353 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153361 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153362 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153367 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153369 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153906 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos

153909 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos

153910 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153913 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153914 Greater Anglia

153918 East Midlands Trains

153921 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153922 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos

153926 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153935 Greater Anglia

153968 East Midlands Trains

153972 East Midlands Trains

153982 East Midlands Trains


Class 158/0 Express Sprinter 2-car

158818 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158819 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158820 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158821 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158822 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158823 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158824 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158825 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158826 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158827 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158828 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158829 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158830 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158831 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158832 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158833 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158834 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158831 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158836 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158837 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158838 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158839 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158840 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158841 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM



Class 170/2 Turbostar 3-car

170201 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170202 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170203 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170204 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170205 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170206 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170207 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170208 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM



Class 170/2 Turbostar 2-car

170270 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170271 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170272 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170273 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM




Class 175/0 Coradia 2-car

175001 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175002 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175003 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175004 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175005 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175006 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175007 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175008 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175009 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175010 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175011 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM



Class 175/1 Coradia 3-car

175101 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175102 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175103 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175104 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175105 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175106 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175107 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

175108 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175109 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175110 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175111 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175112 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175113 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175114 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175115 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175116 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM



Class 230 D-Train 3-car

230006 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

230007 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

230008 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

230009 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM


Awaiting Delivery/Build:

230010 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM



Class 769/0 Flex 4-car

769002 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769003 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769006 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769007 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769008 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769421 Thameslink & PRM

769426 Thameslink & PRM (3/4 cars arrived)

769445 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769452 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM




Locomotive-hauled coaching stock:

Ex-LNER Mark 4 stock (TfW Branding applied)

HD01, formed of 12225/12454/10325/11323 (LNER) and DVT 82226 (TfW)

HD02, formed of 12219/12447/10328/11324 (LNER) and DVT 82229 (TfW)

HD03, formed of 12217/12446/10312/11325 (LNER) and DVT 82216 (TfW)
 
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hobbm013 said:
Sorry, I’ll get round to updating it at some point

67008 in TfW Livery

67014 in TfW livery

67017 in TfW livery

67025 in TfW livery

Modified to work with Mk4 Stock but not Re-liveried:

67010 in DB Livery

67015 in DB Livery



Class 143 Pacer 2-car (PRM Dispensation until Dec. 2020)

143601 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143602 The Start of a New Journey

143604 The Start of a New Journey

143605 These Trains will Terminate Soon

143606 These Trains will Terminate Soon

143607 The Start of a New Journey

143608 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143609 The Start of a New Journey

143610 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143614 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143616 These Trains will Terminate Soon

143622 These Trains will Terminate Soon

143623 These Trains will Terminate Soon

143624 The Journey is Almost Over for Old Trains

143625 The Start of a New Journey



Class 150/2 Sprinter 2-car

150208 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150213 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150217 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150227 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150229 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150230 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM WSP fitted

150231 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150235 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150236 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150237 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise (HoW 150th) & PRM, WSP fitted

150240 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM , WSP fitted

150241 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150242 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise (HoW 150th) & PRM WSP fitted

150245 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150250 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150251 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150252 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150253 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150254 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150255 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150256 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150257 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150258 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150259 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150260 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150262 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150264 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150267 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150278 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150279 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150280 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150281 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150282 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150283 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150284 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted

150285 Arriva Refurbished Turquoise & PRM, WSP fitted



Class 153 Super Sprinter 1-car (Non-compliant units renumbered 153/9)

153303 TfW Rail W&B livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153312 TfW Rail W&B livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153320 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153323 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153325 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153327 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153329 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153333 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153353 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153361 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153362 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153367 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153369 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM, WSP fitted

153906 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos

153909 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos

153910 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153313 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153314 Greater Anglia

153318 East Midlands Trains

153321 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153322 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos

153326 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153935 Greater Anglia

153974 East Midlands Trains




Class 158/0 Express Sprinter 2-car

158818 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158819 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158820 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158821 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail W&B interior & PRM

158822 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158823 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158824 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158825 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158826 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158827 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158828 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158829 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158830 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158831 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158832 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158833 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158834 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158831 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158836 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158837 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158838 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158839 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158840 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM

158841 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM



Class 170/2 Turbostar 3-car

170201 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170202 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170203 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170204 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170205 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170206 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170207 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170208 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM



Class 170/2 Turbostar 2-car

170270 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170271 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170272 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM

170273 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos & PRM




Class 175/0 Coradia 2-car

175001 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175002 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175003 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175004 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175005 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175006 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175007 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175008 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175009 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175010 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175011 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM



Class 175/1 Coradia 3-car

175101 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175102 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175103 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175104 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175105 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175106 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175107 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

175108 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175109 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175110 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175111 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175112 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175113 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

175114 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175115 Arriva Original Teal & Cream & PRM

175116 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM



Class 230 D-Train 3-car

230006 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

230007 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

230008 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

230009 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM


Awaiting Delivery/Build:

230010 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM



Class 769/0 Flex 4-car

769002 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769003 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769006 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769007 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769008 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769421 Thameslink & PRM

769426 Thameslink & PRM (3/4 cars arrived)

769445 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM

769452 TfW Rail W&B Livery & PRM




Locomotive-hauled coaching stock:

Ex-LNER Mark 4 stock (TfW Branding applied)

HD01, formed of 12225/12454/10325/11323 (LNER) and DVT 82226 (TfW)

HD02, formed of 12219/12447/10328/11324 (LNER) and DVT 82229 (TfW)

HD03, formed of 12217/12446/10312/11325 (LNER) and DVT 82216 (TfW)
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may i ask why prm 153s are under non prm and your dispensation is now may 2021 not trying to be picky just avoid confusion
 
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im aware but wouldn't it be better to split them into prm compliant and non compliant rather than the compliant ones listed as non compliant
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No because the compliant ones aren’t listed as non complaint

Each unit says next to it whether it is compliant or not
 
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are the 150s getting a new livery and are the 170s getting a refurb into tfw interior and livery? cheers
 
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are the 150s getting a new livery and are the 170s getting a refurb into tfw interior and livery? cheers
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The 170s are basically already done externally. I've no idea when the new interior will come around, or if/when the red 'swoops' will be added around the cabs.
Ditto the 150s - COVID-19 has basically derailed every timetable of refurbishments.
Now that the WG has taken TfW in house, I'd expect appearances of rolling stock to be taking a back seat when a pandemic is occurrin'.
 
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The 170s are basically already done externally. I've no idea when the new interior will come around, or if/when the red 'swoops' will be added around the cabs.
Ditto the 150s - COVID-19 has basically derailed every timetable of refurbishments.
Now that the WG has taken TfW in house, I'd expect appearances of rolling stock to be taking a back seat when a pandemic is occurrin'.
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This still plays an integral part in the pandemic - the main concern nowadays for passengers is the cleanliness of trains, and the state of the ex-ATW stock in particular doesn’t show any favour to this I’m afraid. At least with the interior refurbishment the trains are given a deep clean and interior that is suitable to today’s standards.
 
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Thanks for updating the list, it's nice to see an overview of progress with the 158s and 175s.

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Class 153 Super Sprinter 1-car (Non-compliant units renumbered 153/9)

153906 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos

153909 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos

153910 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153313 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153314 Greater Anglia

153318 East Midlands Trains

153321 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153322 Greater Anglia with TfW W&B logos

153326 East Midlands Trains with TfW W&B logos

153935 Greater Anglia

153974 East Midlands Trains
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You say 'Non-compliant units renumbered 153/9' but then list 313, 314, 318, 321, 322 and 326 with their original numbers. Have those units been PRMed, or are they awaiting renumbering?

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Class 158/0 Express Sprinter 2-car

158818 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158819 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158820 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158821 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail W&B interior & PRM

158822 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158823 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM
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Any reason why 158821 is listed as having a "TfW Rail W&B interior" while the other refurbished units are described as "TfW Rail refurb interior"? Is there a difference in the interior spec of that unit?

Also, and I realise this is very minor pedantic point, you may want to fix the formating on 158834 next time you update the list, the 'r' at the end of 'interior' is randomly in turquoise instead of red. Or is that indicating parts of the ATW interior were missed during the refurb, or that this unit is currently stopped for refurbishment?

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158833 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158834 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158831 TfW Rail W&B Livery, TfW Rail refurb interior & PRM

158836 TfW Rail W&B Livery, ATW refurb interior & PRM
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Other points with 153s:

153968, 153972 and 153982 in East Midlands Livery to add to list.

153974 is not a TFW one. It travelled with 918 but only to donate it's wheels to 918
 
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59CosG95 said:
The 170s are basically already done externally. I've no idea when the new interior will come around, or if/when the red 'swoops' will be added around the cabs.
Ditto the 150s - COVID-19 has basically derailed every timetable of refurbishments.
Now that the WG has taken TfW in house, I'd expect appearances of rolling stock to be taking a back seat when a pandemic is occurrin'.
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are the 150s getting a new livery and are the 170s getting a refurb into tfw interior and livery? cheers
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170s i recon might see it in a few years just before redeployment west the 150s no real point now they got 2-3 years left and it would take most that to do personally i would just put some wales and borders stickers on them like the 153s
 
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Thanks guys, will update accordingly. I don’t work for the company so literally just go off what’s posted on here. And I thought I’d added /9 to the 153s but then forgot half way through!!

the list has changed hands many times over the life of this thread so there are some minor wording differences which I will amend

thanks again

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Hi does anyone know if 67010+67015 will be liveried Into transport For Wales like 67008, 67014, 67017, 67025.At the moment they are on test runs.

Will they eventually be liveried into TFW
 
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0/10 for Rail Advent for describing DVTs as “Class 82”. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Not to mention them posting "news" that's been public knowledge for months if not years. Not the first time they've been guilty of that either.
 
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Hi does anyone know if 67010+67015 will be liveried Into transport For Wales like 67008, 67014, 67017, 67025.At the moment they are on test runs.

Will they eventually be liveried into TFW
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I’m not sure, best thing is to wait and see. If it’s like the Arriva and early transport for Wales years, any livery could turn up
 
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