roversfan2001
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The second dose doesn’t give full protection either. No vaccine has ever been 100% effective.Once, which does not give full protection.
The second dose doesn’t give full protection either. No vaccine has ever been 100% effective.Once, which does not give full protection.
The second dose doesn’t give full protection either. No vaccine has ever been 100% effective.
The prime minister has wasted no time in getting his sometimes unruly hair under control as hairdressers reopen in England.
Boris Johnson is famous for his shock of blond hair but the wind played havoc with his overgrown locks on a trip to Truro last week.
But, as he emerged from Downing Street earlier his hair looked noticeably shorter.
Downing Street confirmed the prime minister had his hair trimmed this morning before joining MPs in Parliament to pay tribute to the Duke of Edinburgh.
Johnson had previously suggested he would prioritise a visit to the pub over a trip to the hairdressers but he postponed his plans for a pint in the wake of Prince Philip's death on Friday.
Spot on this single Covid issue is storing up huge problems for society but of course Boris and his Tory mates are hoovering up the cash and won't be affected by it. He will then resign after he's been bestowed with the accolade of saving Britain from Covid and leave someone else to clear up the mess.Well there is an 'I'm alright Jack' attitude if ever I saw one. The genie is out of the bottle on the worst mental health crisis we have ever seen, far too many people out there cannot manage like this for another six months to a year.
And don't get me started on routine treatments that have been absolutely decimated for over 12 months. Coupled with these huge mental health issues, the cost of this 'resilience' is going to unneccessarily kill a hell of a lot of people, i'm willing to bet over the coming years this death toll far exceeds any official Covid figures.
The second dose doesn’t give full protection either. No vaccine has ever been 100% effective.
This is really offensive to those around the world who have lost loved ones to the disease.
Sounds like a load of utter nonsense to me. What's the science behind that claim, if none then ignore it?Interestingly I read somewhere yesterday that people that have been Pfizer vaccinated could be MORE at risk than unvaccinated people from the South African variant 'breaking through' the vaccine defenses but there simply isn't enough data to support that claim one way or the other yet (for the record I personally have now had both doses of Pfizer as a healthcare worker and did have an antibody test which came back positive in 2020 although I certainly didn't feel ill at any point)
It looks like they took it out in clumps rather than just cutting it. Definitely still a mess thoughFrom the BBC Live feed, Johnson's finally had a haircut, although personally I don't think it's made much of a difference:
How do you know? Do you speak for them?This is really offensive to those around the world who have lost loved ones to the disease.
Fixed that for you.Let's not encouragetoo much drinking beer at 9am! people having the audacity to enjoy themselves after three months of miserable lockdown!
If you wish to continue restrictions, you should have to prove empirically that they are effective, economically that they have a strong cost/benefit ratio, and ethically that subjugation of the majority of us is worth what we gain. Many of these were implemented with no clear evidence base, and are therefore not science, but unsubstantiated hypotheses, since the legislative environment surrounding the public health act requires the 'least restrictive means possible' the onus is on those proposing keeping them to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they are necessary and that less restrictive measures would not suffice in preventing the NHS being overwhelmed.Here goes in response to recent posts...
If we accelerate the re-opening of society, we risk accelerating the spread of covid. It's that simple. And pressing fast-forward now risks pressing pause later in the year.
Let's use science here. See how gradual re-opening works. See what happens with the figures. And then take it slowly, slowly from there. A Tory MP was quoted in the Observer yesterday (anonymously) worried that we'd be back to square 1 if gradual re-opening ends up causing more harm than good. And I agree.
We've proven that we can be resilient for 13 months. We can prove the same for 18, or 24, if required. The danger of being too eager is being too unprepared.
Well they'll just have to be offended then. They don't have a right to years of my life just because they're a little upset.This is really offensive to those around the world who have lost loved ones to the disease.
If you're wanting full protection from anything, I have bad news for you. Even with one dose, the vaccine is still very effective, and is above the 5o% protection threshold that the WHO has set to consider a vaccine viable.Once, which does not give full protection.
I think you should stick to reading proper news stories and avoid the mumbo-jumbo.Interestingly I read somewhere yesterday that people that have been Pfizer vaccinated could be MORE at risk than unvaccinated people from the South African variant 'breaking through' the vaccine defenses but there simply isn't enough data to support that claim one way or the other yet (for the record I personally have now had both doses of Pfizer as a healthcare worker and did have an antibody test which came back positive in 2020 although I certainly didn't feel ill at any point)
Did it ever go below level 4 recently? I heard the NHS recommended a drop to level 3 recently but either that hasn't happened or it did but didn't get much press coverage.Reported cases well up today but on closer investigation looks like around a third are historic cases being added back from months ago so nothing to see here.
Also NHS released Englands hospital admissions this morning and show continue overall weekly downtrend of c20% to 2108 this morning or 480 over the last week.
Have to wonder why NHS is still at level 3 when less than 2% of its beds are in use with Covid patients! Keeps the fear factor up of course.
Is feeling a pair of breasts offensive to those who've lost people to breast cancer ?
No, might it might up with a slap around the face or worse in you are not intimately connected to the host.
Didn't your parents tell you - don't play with your food.What about had it been a breast from a chicken then? lol
Didn't your parents tell you - don't play with your food.
I went for a country walk today and saw some people (several separate groups) sat in a pub beer garden, enjoying themselves. How dare they! For the benefit of the terminally nervous this was at a socially responsible time though - I didn't go past pre-dawn but perhaps they had all been there since midnight, hic! Didn't join them as I have lost my instructions on how to visit a pub and be sociable with strangers, perhaps Boris will send me (and the whole country) a letter telling me/us it's now safe to go out.
This is not an attitude I can agree with.
Viruses spread by today's behaviour will cause an acceleration of cases, and deaths possibly, and cause another lockdown.
Being libertarian about 9am boozing means being responsible for future restrictions.
The police who stopped the Good Friday Service have spoken of their deep regret for what happened. They also attended Mass on Sunday alongside the bishop to address the congregation and express similar by the looks of it.
Covid: Police 'regret' over halting church Good Friday service
Video of officers addressing the Good Friday congregation, from the altar, circulated online.www.bbc.com
I think this is good of the officers in question and a credit to them, a particularly nice touch in visiting the church a week later to talk kindly to the congregation.
What's the end goal here?This is not an attitude I can agree with.
Viruses spread by today's behaviour will cause an acceleration of cases, and deaths possibly, and cause another lockdown.
Being libertarian about 9am boozing means being responsible for future restrictions.
I do think Saturday will be a big day too.
Bad phrasing on my part; "full" refers to the level of protection offered by the vaccine, not 100% efficacy (which I agree is unachievable). There's a lot of people saying x% have been vaccinated so let's release all measures, missing the large numbers who either haven't been, haven't had time for the vaccine to take effect, or who have still to have a second jab.The second dose doesn’t give full protection either. No vaccine has ever been 100% effective.
Definitely however schools still being off in 95% of the country means that more people will have taken this week off work, or at least some of it, than if hospitality and retail had reopened in the school term.
0% round here.I wouldn’t say 95% of the country. 100% of my children went back yesterday!
The two current vaccines are believed to be between 50% - 65% effective after a couple of weeks of the first dose. So despite you trying to downplay it, the first dose is going to be very effective in quickly driving down numbers. And now there are over 7.5 million people with the second dose, most of which will be in the groups most likely to be at risk. Even most of the most apocalyptic death scenarios came nowhere near that kind of mortality figure.Bad phrasing on my part; "full" refers to the level of protection offered by the vaccine, not 100% efficacy (which I agree is unachievable). There's a lot of people saying x% have been vaccinated so let's release all measures, missing the large numbers who either haven't been, haven't had time for the vaccine to take effect, or who have still to have a second jab.
Delighted as I am to see the figures coming out of Israel, I also note the spread of Covid in Chile despite it's well advanced vaccination programme and regard that as a reminder that the best case is not the only possible outcome.
Like it or not, its time to get moving again,
As happened yesterday.
The Chile story is interesting. Doesn't seem to be widespread reporting of it and I would have expected the scare mongering media to leap onto it which for me questions how relevant it is. But I probably need to do some more research.Bad phrasing on my part; "full" refers to the level of protection offered by the vaccine, not 100% efficacy (which I agree is unachievable). There's a lot of people saying x% have been vaccinated so let's release all measures, missing the large numbers who either haven't been, haven't had time for the vaccine to take effect, or who have still to have a second jab.
Delighted as I am to see the figures coming out of Israel, I also note the spread of Covid in Chile despite it's well advanced vaccination programme and regard that as a reminder that the best case is not the only possible outcome.