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I'm hoping this won't, to quote Sir Humphrey Appleby, become a "troublemaker's letterbox" for people to share their issues with individual products. My thinking behind this thread was to provide a place to share news and updates regarding issues about the supply and stock of model railway items - I got the idea from this week's (12.7.2021) edition of Jenny Kirk's Monday Club livestream (regular forum members will know I'm quite the fan of these streams), in which Jenny talks a bit about some issues with various model supplies.

The issues she talks about are as follows - there may be more:
  • Hornby's price rises - we've already discussed this a bit in the Hornby 2021 Range thread - and the likelihood of other manufacturers doing similar things
  • Dapol O gauge Class 122 delays due to the Evergiven container ship getting stuck in the Suez Canal earlier this year (the ship is on its way now, with the models onboard)
  • A potential - but likely, it seems, from what she says - processor shortage which could affect the production of DCC decoders
  • Rumours (?) that Amazon may have booked all (or a lot of) the containers leaving China in the run-up to Christmas, affecting other manufacturer's ability to get models out of China

This processor shortage she describes seems to be the biggest issue at the moment. Apparently one DCC decoder manufacturer - which Jenny does not name in the livestream - has already pulled advertisements for its decoders as it fears it won't be able to actually make the products. Jenny works for DCC Concepts and has said that they have bought a big supply of processors (and I assume other relevant parts) so they can continue to produce their decoders.
The processors used in DCC decoders are made in a "couple of plants" in the USA. Jenny also makes the point that DCC controllers would be impacted as well as decoders given they use processors - as does anything which can be given a DCC address.
My thinking with regards to this processor shortage is probably if you desperately need some decoders, or if you think you'll probably need some in the future, then maybe look into getting them now as opposed to waiting - but just be sure to not buy loads as if everyone does that then it'll simply accelerate the inevitable! I'm fairly lucky in that I'm not in a position where I need anything right now which could be affected.

As I said at the start of this post - I thought it might be worth making a sort-of master thread where people can share news and updates on model railway products so that information which may be really useful to some people as a lot of these updates wouldn't necessarily need their own thread. We've already got the Hornby 2021 Range thread, I know, but that's a big topic - "Barry's Models edition of the Class 442 in N gauge has been delayed by three months due to a sneezing fit" is only a big topic to those who've ordered a model and who want to know what's going on with it.

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A Barry’s Models 442? Hmm. I might have to order one of those… :lol:
 

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A Barry’s Models 442? Hmm. I might have to order one of those… :lol:
Haha :lol: I thought I should try and add some humour in to compensate for the doom and gloom of "everything's going to disappear off the shelves - don't panic"!

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Haha :lol: I thought I should try and add some humour in to compensate for the doom and gloom of "everything's going to disappear off the shelves - don't panic"!

-Peter

I don’t blame you. :)
Yes the lead times on some of these things arriving often bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to what the manufacturer is claiming…
 

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I don’t blame you. :)
Yes the lead times on some of these things arriving often bears absolutely no relationship whatsoever to what the manufacturer is claiming…
The topic of models being delayed came up in the Hornby 2021 Range thread - I think we're going to see more and more models being delayed in getting to the end customer throughout this year. I can't immediately think of any delayed products so far from Hornby's range, but there are the aforementioned Class 122s in O gauge from Dapol - which have started moving as of yesterday I believe. They're due to arrive at Rotterdam around 25th July (source: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/132607-dapol-121-and-122-dmus-in-o-gauge/page/9/).

For those wanting news updates, RMWeb and the livestream I mentioned in post #1 are good sources.

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I seem to remember there being a very long wait for the Dapol N gauge 50 when I ordered it a couple of years ago. I’m currently looking at some Dapol signals (SR) and a Farish 101 or 108 DMU with sound that are all listed as coming soon but I’ve no idea when.
 

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I seem to remember there being a very long wait for the Dapol N gauge 50 when I ordered it a couple of years ago. I’m currently looking at some Dapol signals (SR) and a Farish 101 or 108 DMU with sound that are all listed as coming soon but I’ve no idea when.
Unless it's something you really want, I suggest just waiting until they appear as 'in stock', delivery timescales seem to shift a lot recently and it just causes disappointment when it gets pushed back again and again.
 

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Unless it's something you really want, I suggest just waiting until they appear as 'in stock', delivery timescales seem to shift a lot recently and it just causes disappointment when it gets pushed back again and again.

Yes definitely. I’ve actually been lucky in that nearly everything I needed for the area that I model has been produced now. There’s just a few bits and bobs that I’d like (plus the signals) so I really can’t complain.
Looking at the prices some of the discontinued stock goes for on eBay is amazing. I suppose that’s the upside of limited runs on things - Virtually everything I own would go for more money than I originally paid for it.
 

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Tonight, on the model railway news at just-gone-half-past-nine:
  • Heljan L&B Baldwin 2-4-2Ts - on their way and in stock
  • Oxford Rail J27s - available to purchase
  • Rails of Sheffield/Heljan 18000 Gas Turbine locomotives - on their way and delivery expected to arrive in the UK late August (later than the previously-planned date of July)
  • Dapol/Lionheart Mk1s in O gauge - available to order
So a few things I've found. Here are the links for the above:

Page from Rails of Sheffield:
https://railsofsheffield.com/news/articles/4060-l-b-baldwin-2-4-2t said:
On the way to us and due next week are the Heljan OO9 Lynton & Barnstaple Baldwin 2-4-2 Tank Locomotives!

Catering for the growing interest in British narrow-gauge modelling, Heljan's second British OO9 locomotive will allow modellers to complete their Lynton & Barnstaple Railway locomotive fleet. Lyn was built by Baldwin in 1898 for the L&BR and shipped to Devon in kit form for assembly at Pilton Works. At the time, the railway needed additional motive power but Manning, Wardle was unable to supply a similar machine to those already in service. A superb full-size replica of Lyn was recently completed for the restored Lynton & Barnstaple Railway in North Devon

VIEW MORE INFORMATION AND ORDER NOW
Items available to order or purchase from Hattons:
Plain works black: https://www.hattons.co.uk/423451/he..._2_4_2t_in_plain_works_black/stockdetail.aspx
L&B Dark Green pre-1906: https://www.hattons.co.uk/423452/he..._in_l_b_dark_green_pre_1906_/stockdetail.aspx
L&B Dark Green post-1906: https://www.hattons.co.uk/423453/he...in_l_b_dark_green_post_1906_/stockdetail.aspx
SR ex-L&B Dark Green E762: https://www.hattons.co.uk/423454/he..._lyn_in_sr_ex_l_b_dark_green/stockdetail.aspx
SR Olive Green E762 1929-1932: https://www.hattons.co.uk/423455/he..._in_sr_olive_green_1929_1932/stockdetail.aspx
SR Olive Green E762 post-1932: https://www.hattons.co.uk/480684/he...ve_green_post_1932_condition/stockdetail.aspx
The following models are available to order from the Oxford Rail website:
J27 BR Early Crest No. 65827 - analogue: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-br-early-no-65837
J27 BR Early Crest No. 65837 - sound fitted: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-br-early-no-65837-sound-fitted
J27 LNER No. 1010 - analogue: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-lner-no-1010
J27 LNER No. 1010 - sound fitted: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-lner-no-1010-sound-fitted

Sorry for not following the forum rules regarding quoting links, but it's not really possible with all of these links. I've used spoilers to make the post shorter and hopefully easier to read.

-Peter :)
 

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Tonight, on the model railway news at just-gone-half-past-nine:
  • Heljan L&B Baldwin 2-4-2Ts - on their way and in stock
  • Oxford Rail J27s - available to purchase
  • Rails of Sheffield/Heljan 18000 Gas Turbine locomotives - on their way and delivery expected to arrive in the UK late August (later than the previously-planned date of July)
  • Dapol/Lionheart Mk1s in O gauge - available to order
So a few things I've found. Here are the links for the above:

The following models are available to order from the Oxford Rail website:
J27 BR Early Crest No. 65827 - analogue: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-br-early-no-65837
J27 BR Early Crest No. 65837 - sound fitted: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-br-early-no-65837-sound-fitted
J27 LNER No. 1010 - analogue: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-lner-no-1010
J27 LNER No. 1010 - sound fitted: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-lner-no-1010-sound-fitted

Sorry for not following the forum rules regarding quoting links, but it's not really possible with all of these links. I've used spoilers to make the post shorter and hopefully easier to read.

-Peter :)

That’s great Peter thanks for that. :)

What’s happening with the weather..?
 

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That’s great Peter thanks for that. :)

What’s happening with the weather..?
This is just like a James Bond film - you ask about the weather and I supply the top-secret codes model railway news... ;)

Some other bits I've found:
  • Sonic Models N gauge 56xx - available for pre-order having left China
  • DCC Concepts Motive Power Depots - available in 360mm, 460mm, and 560mm versions
  • Dapol Class 59 in N gauge - out of abeyance (i.e. work has started again)

As with the previous post, I'll put the links to the products described above in a set of spoilers to make the post easier to read.
Item page from Rails of Sheffield:
Rails of Sheffield website said:
Sonic Models have informed us the 56xx models have left China, heading for the UK!

With a limited run of each variant, Ordering is highly recommended to secure yours. One version is already sold out and several other versions are close to selling out on pre-orders.

A total of 12 variants have now been announced. These are available to pre-order exclusively at Rails.

Pre-Order Yours Today For £109.95 each

The models will feature coreless motors, NEM 6 pin decoder socket, NEM couplers, original or later style driving wheel balance weights, Swindon or Armstrong (NE) safety valves, detailed cab interior and accessory detail pack.

The complete list of 12 models is as follows:

  • S2101-01 – 5637. BR lined green, late crest. (SOLD OUT ON PRE-ORDERS)
  • S2101-01A – 5643. BR lined green, late crest. New.
  • S2101-02 – 6681. BR lined green late crest (small) weathered.
  • S2101-03 – 5633. BR unlined green, late crest.
  • S2101-04 – 6639. BR unlined black, early emblem.
  • S2101-04A – 5619. BR unlined black, early emblem. New.
  • S2101-05 – 5616. GW unlined green with GWR shaded lettering.
  • S2101-06 – 6623. GW unlined green with GREAT WESTERN lettering.
  • S2101-06A – 6671. GW unlined green with GREAT WESTERN lettering. New.
  • S2101-07 – 5609. GW unlined green with shirtbutton logo. New.
  • S2101-08 – 6602. BR unlined black with BRITISH RAILWAYS letting. New.
  • S2101-09 – 5644. GW Unlined green with plain GWR block lettering. New.
Rails of Sheffield is now handling all orders and fulfilment of these models exclusively. (Customers who have already ordered via Revolution Trains, these orders will continue to be processed and despatched by Revolution Trains)
Items available for purchase from Rails of Sheffield:

Motive Power Depot Drive On/Off Storage - 360mm: https://railsofsheffield.com/produc...motive-power-depot-drive-on-off-storage-360mm
Motive Power Depot Drive On/Off Storage - 460mm: https://railsofsheffield.com/produc...motive-power-depot-drive-on-off-storage-460mm
Motive Power Depot Drive On/Off Storage - 560mm: https://railsofsheffield.com/produc...motive-power-depot-drive-on-off-storage-560mm
From Dapol on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/DapolRailways/status/1414895766208978946 said:
The N Gauge Class 59 is out of abeyance. Visit http://dapol.co.uk/Catalogue/16/index.html… or https://dapol.co.uk/N-Gauge-Class-59-Out-Of-Abeyance… for more details
Pre-order sound fitted models exclusively at https://dapol.co.uk/.../N-Gauge-Class-59-DCC-Sound…...
Pre-order DCC Ready & DCC Fitted models at your preferred Dapol stockist today.
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This is just like a James Bond film - you ask about the weather and I supply the top-secret codes model railway news... ;)

Some other bits I've found:
  • Sonic Models N gauge 56xx - available for pre-order having left China
  • DCC Concepts Motive Power Depots - available in 360mm, 460mm, and 560mm versions
  • Dapol Class 59 in N gauge - out of abeyance (i.e. work has started again)

As with the previous post, I'll put the links to the products described above in a set of spoilers to make the post easier to read.
Items available for purchase from Rails of Sheffield:

Motive Power Depot Drive On/Off Storage - 360mm: https://railsofsheffield.com/produc...motive-power-depot-drive-on-off-storage-360mm
Motive Power Depot Drive On/Off Storage - 460mm: https://railsofsheffield.com/produc...motive-power-depot-drive-on-off-storage-460mm
Motive Power Depot Drive On/Off Storage - 560mm: https://railsofsheffield.com/produc...motive-power-depot-drive-on-off-storage-560mm

-Peter

That 59 looks rather good. I was chatting to my friends about it the other day and at least one of them plans on getting one.
 

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That 59 looks rather good. I was chatting to my friends about it the other day and at least one of them plans on getting one.
The CAD render has loads of detail on it by the looks of it. I believe Dapol are also working on a OO gauge versions which comes with a smoke unit too, and that's the first time I think that's been done for a OO gauge diesel?

-Peter
 

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The CAD render has loads of detail on it by the looks of it. I believe Dapol are also working on a OO gauge versions which comes with a smoke unit too, and that's the first time I think that's been done for a OO gauge diesel?

-Peter

Wow. Yeah can’t think of anyone doing that before.
 

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Wow. Yeah can’t think of anyone doing that before.
You can also order them with sound it turns out:
Dapol are producing a newly tooled model of the Class 59 in OO Gauge. The tooling will cater for all three sub-classes: 59/0, 59/1 and 59/2 - with accurate detailing variations. Four liveries are to be produced covering various eras for the class, in Foster Yeoman, ARC, DB Schenker and National Power colour schemes. We expect these new models to arrive by Q4 2021.

Dapol's Class 59 will feature:

  • Finely moulded body with separately fitted details
  • Printed name plates (etched plates supplied separately)
  • Digital and Digital Sound Ready
  • Cast wheels with fine relief and appropriate colours
  • Rotating axleboxes
  • Heavy diecast chassis
  • All-wheel pickups
  • NEM coupling pockets
  • Factory fitted smoke generator with optional diesel exhaust smoke effects
  • Independently controlled headlight and cablights (All lighting variations tooled)

-Peter
 

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If anyone else is interested in a class 73/9 (like me), then KMS/Accurascale are canvassing for expressions of interest in Caledonian Sleeper, Network Rail and GBRF livery versions.

You just need to express your interest on the below form, to help get this project off the ground :) Personally, I think it would be a great addition, especially since appropriate MK 5 Caledonian Sleeper stock is on the way too.

 

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If anyone else is interested in a class 73/9 (like me), then KMS/Accurascale are canvassing for expressions of interest in Caledonian Sleeper, Network Rail and GBRF livery versions.

You just need to express your interest on the below form, to help get this project off the ground :) Personally, I think it would be a great addition, especially since appropriate MK 5 Caledonian Sleeper stock is on the way too.


Obviously it’s not my scale but I’d have thought that would be an incredibly popular model.
I know a man that would make use of at least one eh @Iskra ? ;)
 

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If anyone else is interested in a class 73/9 (like me), then KMS/Accurascale are canvassing for expressions of interest in Caledonian Sleeper, Network Rail and GBRF livery versions.

You just need to express your interest on the below form, to help get this project off the ground :) Personally, I think it would be a great addition, especially since appropriate MK 5 Caledonian Sleeper stock is on the way too.

This certainly looks to be an interesting proposal. Hornby's RailRoad versions of the 73/9s have come under fire online for not being prototypical as they just use their existing 73 tooling so hopefully this will provide a strong alternative (although it is in a different price range, but hey ho - you're not going to get new and detailed models for RailRoad prices!).

-Peter
 

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Or you could (semi-prototypically) mod your Railroad 73/9 :D:

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I can only echo @Iskra in my comments really. That looks really nice - in fact if you hadn't said it was a mod then I'd have said it was a model from the factory!

-Peter

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Good evening, and welcome to your (almost, but not really) daily model railway news update!

And here are the two headlines:
  • Looks like there are going to be further delays to Dapol's Class 121s and 122s in O gauge
  • Hornby have released a video showing some running examples of their forthcoming "Clan" locomotives
There may well be more news updates but looking through the news section on RMWeb only found me these.
In a break from the established format, I'll just put the information below and not in spoilers because there aren't loads of updates.

Dapol Class 121s and 122s in O gauge
Apparently there are further delays with these models as they're on the container ship which got stuck in the Suez Canal which has been stopped "east of Sicily, off Syracusa", according to a post on RMWeb, for two days. There have also been "safety restrictions placed on the vessel" (source: same post) for its journey to Europe. It's first stop should be Rotterdam.
RMWeb post: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/i...-o-gauge/page/9/&tab=comments#comment-4514708

Hornby Clan Line running examples
Hornby have released this video:
Which shows off their new Clan Class models. It's only the first three minutes of the video which seem to focus on the Clans (from a quick look).

Do share if you know of any further news stories or anything to add to/contradict the above. :)

-Peter
 
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I would really like a Clan, and I'm glad they are doing another batch to help keep the prices down on the second hand market, but I can't help but think it looks a little like an early 00's model and therefore can't justify buying one.

Also a bit amateurish that Hornby keep referring to them as 'Clan Line...' in that video :D
 

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I would really like a Clan, and I'm glad they are doing another batch to help keep the prices down on the second hand market, but I can't help but think it looks a little like an early 00's model and therefore can't justify buying one.

Also a bit amateurish that Hornby keep referring to them as 'Clan Line...' in that video :D
They do look like good models. People on RMWeb commented on some of the colours used on parts of the models but I wouldn't know if it was right or wrong!
I didn't watch the video properly but I did notice that. Bit odd considering they're trying to sell the product to railway enthusiasts :lol:

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Sorry for not following the forum rules regarding quoting links, but it's not really possible with all of these links. I've used spoilers to make the post shorter and hopefully easier to read.

-Peter :)
I always say rules are there to be broken as they are often written by those who hate others doing things they can't or won't.

Ever Green location off Sicily, moving again after inspection, destination Rotterdam.

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Have a look at KR Models - GT3, 10100, Leader lots of crazy loco choices!


And Model Rail Class 11/12


My Gripes Humphrey

Not Covid delays
Not chip shortage
Not Ever Green full of Dapol Wagons I ordered
Not delays due to pingdemic

My gripe is that fact that Manufacturers promised me a delivery date, say Q2 2021 and it still says Q2 2021, with no updates, no apologies, nothing! I can understand and do accept that there is a delay beyond the control of the manufacturer, but, not updating me and apologising for the delay is very poor business practise. When I put a huge digger in someone's garden and dig a whopping great hole, they expect to be kept fully up to date on what we are doing, when we will finish and to be treated well. I did a project that took out 30 front gardens from door to road, 4m deep. No complaints, just thanks, why? because they were kept informed and treated well.

So Rails, Dapol, Accurascale and Hornby, wtf are you doing not updating your customers & supply outlets frequently? Somehow KR models newsletters do this. Accurascale sort of half do it and Rails has made basic attempts but come on, if I can track Ever Green online why can't you and tell your ***** customers what's going on? Well, that's my bit/rant!
 

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Ever Green location off Sicily, moving again after inspection, destination Rotterdam.

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Thanks for sharing this @reddragon - really useful. :)

Have a look at KR Models - GT3, 10100, Leader lots of crazy loco choices!


And Model Rail Class 11/12


My Gripes Humphrey

Not Covid delays
Not chip shortage
Not Ever Green full of Dapol Wagons I ordered
Not delays due to pingdemic

My gripe is that fact that Manufacturers promised me a delivery date, say Q2 2021 and it still says Q2 2021, with no updates, no apologies, nothing! I can understand and do accept that there is a delay beyond the control of the manufacturer, but, not updating me and apologising for the delay is very poor business practise. When I put a huge digger in someone's garden and dig a whopping great hole, they expect to be kept fully up to date on what we are doing, when we will finish and to be treated well. I did a project that took out 30 front gardens from door to road, 4m deep. No complaints, just thanks, why? because they were kept informed and treated well.

So Rails, Dapol, Accurascale and Hornby, wtf are you doing not updating your customers & supply outlets frequently? Somehow KR models newsletters do this. Accurascale sort of half do it and Rails has made basic attempts but come on, if I can track Ever Green online why can't you and tell your ***** customers what's going on? Well, that's my bit/rant!
Manufacturers have seen lots of delays recently and they've all dealt with them in different ways. A further example of this is my order from Rails of Sheffield for a Gaugemaster Track Cleaning Wagon - I ordered it knowing it was on back-order but it's been four months now and I'm no closer to getting the model. Rails haven't kept me updated, and when I asked about it, they simply said "we told you on [insert date here] that it was on back-order and we still don't know when it's coming" - not very useful when "[insert date here]" means "the day after you ordered the product".

In other news, Rails of Sheffield's website has changed.
railsofsheffield.com now has a blue colour-scheme and a slightly different user interface. The bargains section also, very unhelpfully, shows items which have sold out, which the previous version never did.

-Peter
 

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If I can track a parcel from China to the UK, I am sure Manufacturers can.

18000 for example was due in the Spring, then June, then July and now August but there website has not changed from June 2021 and no emails have been sent out to those waiting, but there is an update on facebook and now Rails. Not good.

KR and to less a degree Accurascale do actually post updates, just well months apart! Hornby / Dapol? err nope!
 

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If I can track a parcel from China to the UK, I am sure Manufacturers can.

18000 for example was due in the Spring, then June, then July and now August but there website has not changed from June 2021 and no emails have been sent out to those waiting, but there is an update on facebook and now Rails. Not good.

KR and to less a degree Accurascale do actually post updates, just well months apart! Hornby / Dapol? err nope!

Dapol set up their own forum a few years back with the promise that the staff would interact with customers. They do - but very, very occasionally. People mostly seem to have stopped posting on there now.
 

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Tonight, on the model railway news at just-gone-half-past-nine:
  • Heljan L&B Baldwin 2-4-2Ts - on their way and in stock
  • Oxford Rail J27s - available to purchase
  • Rails of Sheffield/Heljan 18000 Gas Turbine locomotives - on their way and delivery expected to arrive in the UK late August (later than the previously-planned date of July)
  • Dapol/Lionheart Mk1s in O gauge - available to order

The following models are available to order from the Oxford Rail website:
J27 BR Early Crest No. 65827 - analogue: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-br-early-no-65837
J27 BR Early Crest No. 65837 - sound fitted: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-br-early-no-65837-sound-fitted
J27 LNER No. 1010 - analogue: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-lner-no-1010
J27 LNER No. 1010 - sound fitted: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/j27-lner-no-1010-sound-fitted

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Sorry for not following the forum rules regarding quoting links, but it's not really possible with all of these links. I've used spoilers to make the post shorter and hopefully easier to read.

-Peter :)

We often complain about pricing on here, but I think it's worth pointing out the value for money offered by the J27; it's going at around £86 for analogue and £170 for DCC sound in places online, which is cracking for a tender locomotive.
 

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We often complain about pricing on here, but I think it's worth pointing out the value for money offered by the J27; it's going at around £86 for analogue and £170 for DCC sound in places online, which is cracking for a tender locomotive.
Most definitely. It looks to be a very good model and at those prices you can't say that's a bad deal. Just hoping now that other manufacturers might follow suit! :lol:
 

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