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Revenue Inspectors - do they avoid saturdays?

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jrh2254

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I notice that I very rarely see Revenue Inspectors on Saturdays.
Last week (Thursday) I was checked on the service from Derby to Sheffield. I asked if they worked on Saturday and they did say yes.

I said I had very rarely , if ever, seen any on Saturday and they said they do work.

I also said that I very rarely saw the train manager on a Saturday, particularly Saturday evening and hence very rarely is my ticket checked on Saturday.

What is others experience and could it be that train managers and Revenue Inspectors keep a low profile due to the prevalence of alcohol and passengers on Saturday!

Has anyone done any work on fare evasion on Saturday compared with say Sunday to Friday?
 
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Certainly seen them working in South Wales on a Saturday. (very effectively too!!)
 

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They tend to be utilised differently on a Saturday. With the large number of events on a weekend they can often be found performing station barrier checks for football matches, food markets, festivals and all the other events that bring large crowds to a single location.
 

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That should differ between TOCs and even depots but in the one I work for, in my depot, I work both Saturdays and Sundays, however roster is made in a way that we work less weekends than any other days of the week.
 

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That should differ between TOCs and even depots but in the one I work for, in my depot, I work both Saturdays and Sundays, however roster is made in a way that we work less weekends than any other days of the week.
Makes sense, more 'customers' to be found during the week. I've never seen a 8am sting on a route at weekends.
I also said that I very rarely saw the train manager on a Saturday, particularly Saturday evening and hence very rarely is my ticket checked on Saturday.
A long time ago I remember a guard who I would say was nearing retirement and would check tickets on the Sunday morning 00.50 out of Picc to Preston I think.
The train was a complete riot, but he came out checking tickets and would tell people politely to put their cigarettes out. He wasn't a bully or anything but even those people asleep who he woke up or who were completely 'slat' respected him. I thought 'Good on him!'.

I've found between Christmas and New Year TM's tend to hide away, this is with various TOCs.
Once I had to go to North Wales late Christmas Eve unplanned, I was sat in a carriage on my own so I thought and then could hear someone singing to themselves (not carols!), I thought 'He's had a few!'.
Turns out he's the TM, as he passed me and said 'You have a ticket don't you?' and walked off. Not saying he's had a few ales or anything, I don't know.
 

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Makes sense, more 'customers' to be found during the week. I've never seen a 8am sting on a route at weekends.

Had a revenue block at 0630 on Sunday morning at Chingford when it was still GA

Everyone on my train (about 20 people) had a ticket
 

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The only time in recent months I've seen revenue at York station was on a Saturday.
 

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They tend to be utilised differently on a Saturday. With the large number of events on a weekend they can often be found performing station barrier checks for football matches, food markets, festivals and all the other events that bring large crowds to a single location.
Also at Staines and W&E Riverside stations where occasional travellers going to the nearby theme parks can get pounced on when their Oyster cards don't work the gates.

One was already moving towards me with a gleam in his eye on my last visit to Staines when I touched my wallet on the reader and it rejected; he was rather disappointed when it transpired that I was touching an ITSO card and had only had a momentary card clash...
 

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LNWR usually have a block on at Liverpool Lime Street on Saturday's, although this does depend on staff availability. I think they need a minimum amount of staff to do one.
 

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Had a revenue block at 0630 on Sunday morning at Chingford when it was still GA

Everyone on my train (about 20 people) had a ticket

People going out clubbing all night in London and taking the first train back on Sunday morning is not at all unusual, many will just fare dodge due to the lack of checks, many others will assume their previous day's Travelcard is still valid when it isn't as it is usually after 0430.
 

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Last Wednesday I went from Hinckley - Nuneaton (AWC) - London Euston, London Euston (LNWR) - Nuneaton - Hinckley and didn't have a ticket checked on board or at a barrier throughout the day
 

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Last Wednesday I went from Hinckley - Nuneaton (AWC) - London Euston, London Euston (LNWR) - Nuneaton - Hinckley and didn't have a ticket checked on board or at a barrier throughout the day

No barrier check at Euston with LNWR?
 

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Last Wednesday I went from Hinckley - Nuneaton (AWC) - London Euston, London Euston (LNWR) - Nuneaton - Hinckley and didn't have a ticket checked on board or at a barrier throughout the day

Certainly most south WCML revenue guards don't do tickets and just hide in the cab throughout, there are an odd few that do (maybe no more than 3-5 of them) and regular users easily recognise them.

No barrier check at Euston with LNWR?

They seem to have got rid of the security guards who were previously manning gatelines for the full period of service and reverted to the LM practice of them being in use only during the day. But if it didn't go off platform 1-3 or 8-11 there wouldn't be anyway, and even the 1-3 gates are not manned permanently, only when an Avanti is boarding, thus are a bit pointless as they provide no real benefit over the manual checks. (This might explain why 4-7, 12-15 and 16 have never been gated as was the original rolling plan; I wonder if once HS2 opens they might consider rejigging the layout to have one gateline for the whole thing).
 

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Certainly most south WCML revenue guards don't do tickets and just hide in the cab throughout, there are an odd few that do (maybe no more than 3-5 of them) and regular users easily recognise them.

Was this pre-covid as well? That's a long stretch without any ticket checks, although how much of the South WCML is barried? I know that Northampton, Milton Keynes, Watford are.
 
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