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The LSP&JR line giving access to the WLR’s Southport Central from the GCR is an interesting one and I should’ve thought of that. I have also just remembered Aintree Central on the CLC.
It of course isn’t. I’m glad you’re paying attention.
But it has of course lost its status as the main station for Bury, even before the building of the Metrolink. I must not say terminus, because of course through services continued to Rawtenstall and Bacup.
GCR Stations (mostly in Lincolnshire) lack the Central suffix where they were the only station in the town, so for the Glossop terminus it
The Central was dropped from Bexhill Central when the nearby West station closed. In the same town Halt was dropped from Collington Halt. Does Gatwick Racecourse (renamed Gatwick Airport) count, or was that a closure and fresh opening? Tinsley Green to the south was renamed Gatwick Airport.
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Bute Road became Cardiff Bay in the early 90s.
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The 1963, 1967 and 1973 Western Region timetables all use Exeter Central in their listings, as does the 1973 WTT shown on Timetable World website
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Parbold (on the Southport-Wigan line) was originally Newborough, then Newburgh for Parbold, then Parbold for Newborough, then Parbold, reverting to Parbold for Newborough, and now it's back to Parbold again!
YorksLad12
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Whitby opened in 1835; was renamed Whitby Town in 1886; renamed Whiby again in 1924; renamed Whitby Town again in 1951; and renamed back to Whitby in 1966.
It's due a rename... are they one of the towns hoping to become a city next year?
It's due a rename... are they one of the towns hoping to become a city next year?
D6130
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While on the Whitby line, Ormesby was renamed Marton on 17th May 1982.
When I worked in Worcester, there was a suggestion (I think from the City Council) that Foregate Street station should be renamed Worcester Central. I don't think the idea was ever taken up by the rail industry.
My recollection is that none of the green Southern signing was changed to brown from when the western part of the region was transferred to the WR in January 1963. Nothing was done before regional sign colours went to the national black/white two years later. The same was true of green lamp posts and everything else. Now I may just not have noticed, and I would think that doing nothing was more likely while they thought about future plans, but that was it. The same seemed to apply to signalling, where GW-pattern signals (actually WR Reading signal works pattern; original GWR ones were a bit different) took a while to start to appear.
Regarding Exeter Central, none of my old timetables show it as anything else.
It did cause the adjacent Underground station on the Bakerloo to be called "Great Central" for its first years; this is when this station was indeed outside and seperate. The present integrated entry from the Marylebone concourse with angled escalators down to the platform came after this original Underground building and vertical lifts was destroyed by WW2 bombing.
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D6130
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Sorry to be slightly OT, but I do seem to recall that the Down Starter signal at Exeter Central remained an LSWR lattice post lower quadrant semaphore until the resignalling in the mid-1980s. IIRC, this was due to the limited clearance under the platform canopy, which extended right to the platform end. Unless anyone knows differently, I would think that this would have been the last such signal in use on the national network.
In 1960, on the Liverpool Street -- Cambridge main line a little way south of Bishop's Stortford: "swapping-and-switching" name-wise, took place between two stations adjacent to each other on the route. Burnt Mill was renamed Harlow Town -- the station being extensively rebuilt and enlarged at the same time; and Harlow, one station further out of London, was renamed Harlow Mill. These doings in fact made sense -- with a large New Town being developed in the Harlow Area, its centre being nearer to the hitherto Burnt Mill station, than to the hitherto Harlow one -- but a fair number of people not greatly au fait with the development concerned, or with the railways' station-naming habits and customs; found the whole thing a bit bewildering (the role of the suffix "Mill" in this episode, certainly had confusion-potential for the uninitiated). At the time, the humorist Paul Jennings devoted, for one issue, his regular whimsical column in the Observer: to a comical poem on the general theme of how confusing and puzzling all this was -- getting into assorted wacky scenarios of what might conceivably have been happening in the Harlow area, to give rise to this strangeness.
KETTERING FOR CORBY on the covers of the slightly greenish fluorescent platform lights out of the window of a slowly trundling slightly greenish set of Mk 1s one dark evening in the late 70s.
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Exeter Central retained SR target signs throughout the station in both short and long styles. It had four 4ft all green totems back to back one set on each platform as posterboard headings. AFAIK this station never received any brown enamel.
I've never heard of it ever being referred to as Gemeral.
Staying in the area Lions Holt Halt became St James Park,Woodbury Road beame Exton (both later had BR(S) totems) . South Molton Road became Kings Nympton which received early design BR(W) brown totems.
Then there was re-spellings,Llanelly becoming Llanelli for example.
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The LMS timetable of 1947 shows London (Euston) and London (St Pancras) on its "main line" service pages.
But it's just plain Fenchurch St/St Pancras/Broad St on its "local" pages.
The LMR was very particular about using the London prefix (without brackets) for its terminals (which included Marylebone), and that was carried forward to the BR national timetable when it came in, and into the Virgin/NR//Avanti era.
The only discordant feature is the way Voyagers display just "Euston" on their destination panel and PIS, when there is room for the full "London Euston".
It's never been quite as consistent for the ex-Southern termini, or for somewhere like Kensington Olympia when it was a long-distance stop/terminal.
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Was that linked to the station being promoted for InterCity services? I recall a lot of the emerging CrossCountry services from Scotland stopping there in the 1980s, as well as Euston Wolverhampton services.
I think so, I think Dudley Council gave some money for its refurbishment hence the name.
For the North Warwickshire Line the following station name changes have taken place since its opening in 1907.
Spring Road Platform - Platform dropped 1970's
Yardley Wood Platform - Platform dropped?
Whitlocks End Halt, Halt dropped possibly 1999
Grimes Hill Halt, became Grimes Hill & Wythall Platform 1936 then Wyhall in the 1970's
Earlswood Lakes, Lakes dropped 1964
The Lakes Halt, Halt dropped ?
Wood End Platform, Platform dropped?
Daniel has variously been called Danzey Green, Danizey for Tanworth
Wooton Wawen Platform, Platform dropped?
Stratford replaced a station called "Birmingham Road Terminus".
Source for above "The story of the North Warwickshire Line" by Alan Bevan, no ISBN number. Actually no Copyright or acknowledged author except for for cover name!
Spring Road Platform - Platform dropped 1970's
Yardley Wood Platform - Platform dropped?
Whitlocks End Halt, Halt dropped possibly 1999
Grimes Hill Halt, became Grimes Hill & Wythall Platform 1936 then Wyhall in the 1970's
Earlswood Lakes, Lakes dropped 1964
The Lakes Halt, Halt dropped ?
Wood End Platform, Platform dropped?
Daniel has variously been called Danzey Green, Danizey for Tanworth
Wooton Wawen Platform, Platform dropped?
Stratford replaced a station called "Birmingham Road Terminus".
Source for above "The story of the North Warwickshire Line" by Alan Bevan, no ISBN number. Actually no Copyright or acknowledged author except for for cover name!
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ISTR more IC services stopping there in the 80s, i.e. not just the Euston-Wolverhampton but certain XC services too.
I am fairly sure that 1984 was the year of renaming/upgrading.
Ironically the Liverpool services favour Smethwick and Coseley rather than Sandwell and Dudley these days, so it's missed by all but one fast service an hour. I guess Coseley is also serving as a 'Dudley Parkway'? (not sure, not that familiar with the area)
In the south, Lyndhurst Road became Ashurst New Forest sometime in the 90s, and then there's Handborough becoming Hanborough in a similar period (see various other threads...)
The station west of Romsey has gone through a number of changes since the 80s. First 'Dunbridge', IIRC, it became 'Mottisfont Dunbridge' sometime in the 90s, then plain 'Dunbridge' again (around the millennium I think) and finally 'Mottisfont and Dunbridge'. The Mottisfont was added I suspect due to Mottisfont Abbey, and Mottisfont village is perhaps only a 10 minute walk.
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Dover Marine became Dover Western Docks in its latter years.
The current Ardrossan Harbour (1986) replaced in function as railhead for the Arran ferry the previous station of the same name which had previously been named Ardrossan Winton Pier and before that Ardrossan Pier of the Caledonian Railway - renamed Winton Pier by the LMS to distinguish it from the other Ardrossan Pier station (ex GSWR) which became Ardrossan Montgomery Pier
The current Ardrossan Harbour (1986) replaced in function as railhead for the Arran ferry the previous station of the same name which had previously been named Ardrossan Winton Pier and before that Ardrossan Pier of the Caledonian Railway - renamed Winton Pier by the LMS to distinguish it from the other Ardrossan Pier station (ex GSWR) which became Ardrossan Montgomery Pier
Living a few miles from Sandwell and Dudley myself it is frustrating why more trains don't stop their tbh. That said Smethwick Galton Bridge is more logical because of its connections to Kidderminster and the South of Birmingam.
Folkestone East which closed in 1965 was called Folkestone when it opened in 1843 then changed to Folkestone Old in 1849, Folkestone Junction in 1852, Folkestone Junction (Shorncliffe) in 1858, Folkestone Junction in 1863, Folkestone in 1884, Folkestone Junction in 1897 then finally Folkestone East in 1962.
Its identity crisis must have caused it severe depression.
Its identity crisis must have caused it severe depression.
Regarding Sandwell and Dudley and the 1980’s I think so, I have memories of my Auntie and I going to pick up my Dad from there as a small child in 1987/88 when he used to commute.
Dad used to have all sorts of stuff back from Wolves at the time, one memorable occasion he had a 33!
I have a very vague memory of a lad about 14/15 who used to spot there.
Yes - in the middle of the village
Cheadle Hulme station was originally called Cheadle despite being in Cheadle Hulme and a couple of miles away from Cheadle itself.
It was renamed Cheadle Hulme when a station opened in Cheadle on the Stockport to Altrincham line in 1866. The latter closed in 1917 but there are plans to reinstate Cheadle station in the relatively near future.
Personally i would prefer Whitby Harbour.
Coulsdon North and South were previously Coulsdon West and East following the Grouping (but only for 22 days). That must be some of the shortest periods for re-naming. Prior to that they had other names. Coulsdon North was originally Stoats Nest and Cane Hill - which sounds a lot more interesting .
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