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No - it's effectively moved back to the timetable before December. Scarborough's were by and large going through to Man Vic from Dec 21. These are curtailed at York again.Am I right in saying that the North TPE route is basically what it is now then (but without the occasional peak services)? I don't know enough about the other routes to see how they've changed.
Are EMR not back to hourly (according to the timetable)Not another one
Some hours there'll be neither TPE nor EMR on Manchester to Sheffield. Unacceptable when we're not in any sort of lockdown.
Isn’t this all down to the Treasury?The railway ombudsman needs to step in to prevent this severity of cuts.
Apparently these cuts are being driven by the DfT.....The railway ombudsman needs to step in to prevent this severity of cuts.
For North Transpennine customers main change seems to be the Scarborough service becoming a York shuttle again. To be honest as a user of this route the improvement in reliability is worth the change in York if you are travelling further west, and of course probably 2/3rds get off/change at York anyway. So not a big impact, and may even befefit some.
That isn’t accurate in this case at all, it’s pure and simple due to having too many services with too few staff.Apparently these cuts are being driven by the DfT.....
Not sure what can be done. Apparently staff sickness is 17% at TPE, similar to plenty of other industries too - out of all my closest friends, me included, 7 out of 9 of us have had covid in the last 4 weeks. If an emergency timetable wasn't being run then there would be significant levels of cancellations, as there are daily currently. Only time there can be the co-ordination wanted is if one operator ran that route - which is another story in itself. Simply, you can't run trains if the staff aren't there.Some hours there'll be neither TPE nor EMR on Manchester to Sheffield. Unacceptable when we're not in any sort of lockdown.
No, they're not. Staff sickness is. Although it probably doesn't make economic sense carting around fresh air either.Apparently these cuts are being driven by the DfT.....
Ah... I'd missed the December changes, which is why I thought there was no change. Ta.No - it's effectively moved back to the timetable before December. Scarborough's were by and large going through to Man Vic from Dec 21. These are curtailed at York again.
South route effectively reverts back to how it was before the uplift in Spring, similar with the Scottish services on the WCML.
Nobody is being very forthcoming as to the full story on this one, nor the reductions on other TOCs. I fear it's going to be a winter of discontent on the railway...Whilst staff sickness might be the immediate cause, the unwillingness of the DfT/treasury to sanction new RDW deals will be having an inevitable impact. Drivers are usually happy to work overtime to help ensure a decent service yet we are unable to and this is the result.
Im guessing the DFT have told the companies to trim the timetables down as they want to save money and also know that if they try to push reforms through, once of the first things to get pulled is rest day working. Pay talks will be due to start soon at most TOCS and i'm guessing the DFT will want another pay freeze.Nobody is being very forthcoming as to the full story on this one, nor the reductions on other TOCs. I fear it's going to be a winter of discontent on the railway...
The outcome of the last couple of major disputes has shown that the DfT seem to like letting disruption rumble on for months, sometimes even more than a year, until finally capitulating. A very curious strategy given the amount of taxpayer money that is p****d away paying drivers when guards are on strike and vice versa, and one that simply serves to reinforce the predilection of the rail unions to go down this road.Call me a cynic, but I will predict the following. I will use TPE as an example but I am sure it will be applied to other, if not all, operators too.
a) Temporary timetable due to Covid related staff absences. This is accepted by the public as fewer people are travelling, people are working from home, staff shortages nationally are widely reported.
b) Drivers continue rest day working ban. Guards have a strop too and start working to rule, no overtime etc.
c) Despite Temporary timetable random cancellation and disruption continues due to b).
d) A further reduced timetable is introduced as a result of c).
e) DfT continues to refuse to accept the various Union demands. Disruption continues.
f) General public starts returning to work and leisure activities. Other industries start returning to normal. Omicron related staff absences subside in the general workforce so public don't expect the Railways to be any different.
g) Public get increasingly angry about reduced timetables and industrial relations issues disrupting their return work and leisure activities. Discretionary travel fails to pick up again causing further rail industry financial issues.
h) DfT continues to refuse to cave in to Union demands citing continued reduced income as mentioned in g).
i) The Government attempts to force through changes to staff terms etc to get things back to normal.
j) Government makes it very clear to the general population that the trouble on the railways is not now covid related, but caused by nasty bolshy unions and lazy overpaid inflexible staff.
k) Government legislates to ban strikes on the Railways and forces through money saving and efficiency changes to staff contracts to get trains running again and get the economy back on track.
l) Boris is hailed a hero by the general population for standing up to the nasty unions. Rail industry staff get s*afted.
k) Government legislates to ban strikes on the Railways and forces through money saving and efficiency changes to staff contracts to get trains running again and get the economy back on track.
l) Boris is hailed a hero by the general population for standing up to the nasty unions. Rail industry staff get s*afted.
Perhaps it's not worth posting conjecture on something which isn't relevant currently.The outcome of the last couple of major disputes has shown that the DfT seem to like letting disruption rumble on for months, sometimes even more than a year, until finally capitulating. A very curious strategy given the amount of taxpayer money that is p****d away paying drivers when guards are on strike and vice versa, and one that simply serves to reinforce the predilection of the rail unions to go down this road.
As for the driver dispute on this one, having heard some of the details through the grapevine, it's not looking like something that will be resolved anytime soon. The guards 'dispute' (I suspect the ballot is just a formality) is rather different as it's basically just about money and won't, I suspect, be as big an issue.
And then don’t forget M - The rail staff leave the industry in their droves due to poor working conditions to work elsewhere for a better work-life balance
The government once again ask the rail staff to return (just as they have teachers, signallers and healthcare professionals), they don’t. They’ve f’cked it yet again.
Which services do you have in mind? I'm not aware of any services being destrengthened.I see that some services on the South TPE route, operating to the temporary timetable, have been reduced to single 185s.
It's indefensible that the capacity should be reduced as well as the frequency, is there any valid reason for this?
I see that some services on the South TPE route, operating to the temporary timetable, have been reduced to single 185s.
It's indefensible that the capacity should be reduced as well as the frequency, is there any valid reason for this?
If the ECS move was shortformed from the depot then it’s very poor as they have spare units, but if it broke down and has had to be left at Cleethorpes it’s not as easy to get another unit there. You’d like to think they’d work out a plan to put a spare unit on it mid diagram but it might be considered too much effort when they could just not have it running instead.The 06:26 Cleethorpes to Piccadilly was 3-car today, however it's booked 6-car as it featured on Journey Check.
That service stables overnight at Cleethorpes, which is only a stabling/fuelling point and has no maintenance facilities. If there's a problem with one of the units (particularly if it's only discovered in the morning), there's not many options to prevent a shortform.If the ECS move was shortformed from the depot then it’s very poor as they have spare units, but if it broke down and has had to be left at Cleethorpes it’s not as easy to get another unit there. You’d like to think they’d work out a plan to put a spare unit on it mid diagram but it might be considered too much effort when they could just not have it running instead.
I did wonder if that was the case over night. Makes a lot of sense. Good to see they are on top of it.That service stables overnight at Cleethorpes, which is only a stabling/fuelling point and has no maintenance facilities. If there's a problem with one of the units (particularly if it's only discovered in the morning), there's not many options to prevent a shortform.
Assuming the resources (driver and spare unit) are available, it would be normal practice to re-strengthen the service upon arrival the Manchester end. And indeed that's exactly what happened today.
Which services do you have in mind? I'm not aware of any services being destrengthened.
If any are singles then AFAIK it's either due to on-the-day shortforms (due to unit failure for example), or on one of the early or late services where it's required so as to get sets in the right stabling locations for the start/end of day. Which has always been a facet of the timetable.