Jamesrob637
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All of which are booked 6-car. Everything is on South TPE since early-2020 bar the very last through departure from Cleethorpes
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TPE Emergency Timetable from Jan 10 2022
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All of which are booked 6-car. Everything is on South TPE since early-2020 bar the very last through departure from Cleethorpes
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That isn’t strictly true.
There are a few morning services which are booked single sets including the morning Airport service from Sheffield
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Oh is that the one at daft o'clock?
Most likely resulting from units trapped in Hull due to engineering blockade (Micklefield to Selby) which are required for service first thing on Monday morning that can’t rotate
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The 12.18 was 6 and lightly loaded from Sheffield.
The 1211 westbound however was 3 car and was wedged, the 1214 Northern also had most seats taken. Why EMR weren't running through I haven't been able to work out, for whatever reason I was deployed shuttling from Nottingham to Sheffield and back all shift.
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The 11.49 ex-Piccadilly 3 car 195 Northern was well loaded on arrival at Dore. Plenty of airport travellers have now sussed out how much cheaper it is than either EMR or TPE and another 15-20 minutes on a 195 is no big deal.
14.14 Northern westbound was standing in rear 2 coaches but plenty of space in the first. Delayed 4 minutes by late running TPE 6 coach 14.11.
EMR services replaced by Andrews coaches between Chesterfield and Sheffield and Stockport so their emergency seems to have been greater than TPE's.
14.14 Northern westbound was standing in rear 2 coaches but plenty of space in the first. Delayed 4 minutes by late running TPE 6 coach 14.11.
EMR services replaced by Andrews coaches between Chesterfield and Sheffield and Stockport so their emergency seems to have been greater than TPE's.
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Yes, that's the one I got from Sheffield to Scunthorpe. I was expecting it to be busy because Wigan Athletic were playing away at Doncaster but the front car was lightly loaded, as you say.
You do seem to have rotten luck. That set was a single because 1B96 (22:20 MAN-DON) the previous day was stuck behind a failed freight train in Cowburn Tunnel. The train was delayed so significantly that it had to terminate at Sheffield and stable there overnight - the driver was out of hours to continue to Crofton Depot.
As a result Crofton were a unit down for the next day's service, hence the shortform on the diagram forming the 14:18. With the drivers that were available, and to balance the units and get things set up correctly for the next day, there was no opportunity to restrengthen the diagram in time for the 14:18.
Very unfortunate but just goes to show how significant a knock-on impact some of these things can have.
Nope, got nothing to do with that. If there's a block on between Leeds and Selby, there will simply be a few units sitting idle at Hull. It has no significant effect on rotation.
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What will TPE be like timetable-wise on the 25th of March? Anybody know at this stage?
No. But unless rest day working is back on the table, I doubt there will be any change to what is currently in place.
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Does anyone know what’s going on with TPE today?
Even with the reduced timetable there seems to be lots of cancellations of TPE trains travelling through Manchester Victoria.
Even with the reduced timetable there seems to be lots of cancellations of TPE trains travelling through Manchester Victoria.
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Yep
Broken down train on ECML and a signal outage in the Huddersfield area that’s affecting numerous signals between Heaton Lodge - Bradley Wood Jn and with no detection of points
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Anglo-Scottish connections are terrible today too, and you can't put that down to a signalling fault near Leeds!
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Pre-planned Cancellations due to lack of route knowledgeable drivers
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Do they have many drivers, over 50% of services seem to be cancelled each day. Seems the same on English routes. What is the real reason? All I know is it makes travel for my daughter back home from Edinburgh to South of Manchester very stressful for her and the rest of us. I might even have to consider driving her to Doncaster - LNER seem to be able to run a train service.
mike57
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I think the situation is compounded by TPE management decisions regarding route knowledge, see this thread/post: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/transpennine-industrial-relations.226123/page-28#post-5667550
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Ah I see so they need to be enlightened then. I just do not understand how they got these jobs it is utter incompetence. Today 1 train out of 8 is left Manchester to Edinburgh - more cancelled overnight, so Doncaster it is.
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TPE is our main provider from Scarborough, unless you can travel via Hull. Since 2018 they seem to have leapt from crisis to crisis. Since Covid the Scarborough service has been a shuttle, and been more reliable, but I use them about once a week to visit the Manchester area, and its a complete lottery if I will complete my journey in a timely manner. There is also a tendancy for TPE to blame the DfT and vica versa, with no one taking responsibility. A lot of the failures/problems have been predicted in advance, which makes it worse. As a passenger I dont really care who runs the trains as long as they run, but the current arrangements dont seem to be working.
At the senior management levels there doesn't seem to be any penalty for failure.
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