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Sainz was unlucky with his compromised out lap getting held up by Latifi ignoring Blue Flags which delayed him enough to not pass Perez after Perez stopped. Leclerc was unlucky due to weak strategy (again) from Ferrari. Perez was a deserving winner being the better of the two Red Bulls that weekend Also good to see Russel keep up his feat of a top 5 position at every race this season.
 
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Aargh!!! Red Bull benefit from a crash yet again. It's getting very tiresome!
Fair enough, the crash effectively nullified pit strategy, and denied Ferrari any chance to try and jump Checo/Max (for this reason I’m really not a fan of teams being able to change tyres during a red flag, other than for safety reasons), but the race was effectively lost when Ferrari lost track position to the Red Bulls with their strategy failure during the transition to inters/slicks.
 

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Fair enough, the crash effectively nullified pit strategy, and denied Ferrari any chance to try and jump Checo/Max (for this reason I’m really not a fan of teams being able to change tyres during a red flag, other than for safety reasons)
The thing is, how would you determine what is/is not a safety reason? And it would be unfair to a driver who has a pit stop sized lead but whose tires only have a couple of laps life left in them!
 

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The thing is, how would you determine what is/is not a safety reason? And it would be unfair to a driver who has a pit stop sized lead but whose tires only have a couple of laps life left in them!
How safe is safe is a debate which could go on forever, particularly in motorsport.
 

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That would be something for the FIA to worry about and oversee just as they do with bodywork changes.
 

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The thing is, how would you determine what is/is not a safety reason? And it would be unfair to a driver who has a pit stop sized lead but whose tires only have a couple of laps life left in them!
IIRC at some point in the distant past teams were not allowed to change tyres under a red flag but it led to incidents due to drivers trying to avoid a pit stop on worn/incorrect tyres so the rule was scrapped.

Leclerc was unlucky due to weak strategy (again) from Ferrari. Perez was a deserving winner being the better of the two Red Bulls that weekend Also good to see Russel keep up his feat of a top 5 position at every race this season.
Really Ferrari could do with IMO poaching a couple of strategy people from elsewhere in the pitlane, e.g. Bernadette Collins, because whoever is/was doing it for the past few years hasn't learnt from their past mistakes.

Russell's certainly a consistent point scorer now that he's in a halfway decent car. Any doubts Toto Wolf might have had over signing him after his faux pas in Imola last year must be long gone.

That would be something for the FIA to worry about and oversee just as they do with bodywork changes.
While the FIA got it more or less right with this years aero rules, it does seem like they could use a hand with race direction after the chaos yesterday over start time and tyres. Credit where it's due, at least we now know that the white line is the edge of the track! - only taken a few decades to sort that one...
 

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Red Bull demonstrating the golden child syndrome once again…
 

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It’s a high tech world this F1. Broken rear wing? Just duct tape it so it can’t move…
 

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Most of it. Between bad tactical calls and unreliability they will hand Red Bull the title.
I think they already have.
I genuinely thought we could finally see the scuderia lift the trophy again, sadly they seemed to have gone back to default.
 

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Red Bull demonstrating the golden child syndrome once again…
I disagree. Verstappen clearly had the fastest car/was the faster driver.

I wonder how much of this championship will be decided by Ferrari unreliability.
We are only just a third of the way through the season. All teams are experiencing unreliability. It’s the nature of the beast.
I think they already have.
I genuinely thought we could finally see the scuderia lift the trophy again, sadly they seemed to have gone back to default.
I think it’ll be most interesting in the final 3rd of the season, when teams are approaching budget caps and have to trade parts for points.

Most teams have already used their power unit allowance.

Rather than being a series of talent and excitement, this will be a season of politics and planning.
 

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Huge crash at the British Grand Prix.

At least Zhou seems like he is ok, but that was quite scary for a bit as they weren't showing any replays for a while.
 

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bloody hell! that is an awful crash. Cant recall a worse one. Hopefully Zhou is ok as he is reported to be conscious and talking.
 

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bloody hell! that is an awful crash. Cant recall a worse one. Hopefully Zhou is ok as he is reported to be conscious and talking.
There's footage on twitter taken by fans who were sat right above that fence, very frightening for them too, good job they were above a very strong and high safety fence.
 

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There's footage on twitter taken by fans who were sat right above that fence, very frightening for them too, good job they were above a very strong and high safety fence.
I wonder if after the race Silverstone will look at that gravel trap as it looked like Zhou’s car hit a bump which caused it to flip over the tyre barrier.
 

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I wonder if after the race Silverstone will look at that gravel trap as it looked like Zhou’s car hit a bump which caused it to flip over the tyre barrier.
On a perfectly flat surface, a damaged car will flip over its tethered tyre very easily.

The fans are behind a second catch fence.
 

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The fans are behind a second catch fence.
The fence did its job but the spectators in that stand were pretty close to joining in the accident!

Zhou under review at the Silverstone medical centre but Albon taken to Coventry hospital by helicopter for precautionary checks
 
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In case anyone hasn’t seen yet, Zhou is fine, another life saved by the Halo. As for the car hitting a bump in the gravel trap, this is likely a ridge forming in the gravel, as it is pushed by the car.
 

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i haven't heard anything about Albon yet.

There are some incredible pictures on Twitter of the Zhou incident. Incredible he was up and about at the end of the race
 

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There are some incredible pictures on Twitter of the Zhou incident. Incredible he was up and about at the end of the race
F1 have a YouTube video (due to limitations, the video won't embed here):

It does seem a little mean spirited of FIA to not allow Russel to re-start the race after the red flag. Apparently he only had a puncture, but the marshals moved his car when he got out to check on Zhou and the rules say that you can't restart if you've had assistance.
 

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F1 have a YouTube video (due to limitations, the video won't embed here):

It does seem a little mean spirited of FIA to not allow Russel to re-start the race after the red flag. Apparently he only had a puncture, but the marshals moved his car when he got out to check on Zhou and the rules say that you can't restart if you've had assistance.
It looked a little more damaged than that. He’d also run back to the pits to ask how to restart it after stalling. So it doesn’t seem that unreasonable that the marshals moved it.
 

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It looked a little more damaged than that. He’d also run back to the pits to ask how to restart it after stalling. So it doesn’t seem that unreasonable that the marshals moved it.
I don't know how damaged it was, but in an interview during the stoppage he said that Mercedes were appealing the decision so it must've been drivable.
 

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It looked a little more damaged than that. He’d also run back to the pits to ask how to restart it after stalling. So it doesn’t seem that unreasonable that the marshals moved it.

I don't know how damaged it was, but in an interview during the stoppage he said that Mercedes were appealing the decision so it must've been drivable.
The car wasn't badly damaged but it was recovered by the marshals so he was out. No real issue there tbh.

F1 have a YouTube video
There is a press shot on twitter that shows the car on its side behind the barrier with Zhou in the car.
There is a video from the stand directly in line with the accident

it is an awful accident - the safety features F1 have introduced seem to have saved the drivers life. I was a bit against the halo as I didn't see how it could work but this accident without it. doesn't bear thinking about.

I thought Zhou was dead. Honestly. What is the roll hoop breaking/grinding/wearing off ( the illuminous flash you can see in the video above) I thought has his helmet bashing along the track.
 

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The car wasn't badly damaged but it was recovered by the marshals so he was out. No real issue there tbh.
I believe the basis of the appeal was that Russell told them not to move it but they moved it anyway, and that the race had already been red-flagged by that point. I don't think it would have been asking too much to let him take the restart start from the pit lane, given that he left the car initially to check on the safety of another driver.
 

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