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What is the leading van in this picture?

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AndrewE

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/robertcwp/4652553537/in/photostream/ shows an interesting parcels or van train in 1956.

The first vehicle seems to have doors at 1/3 and 2/3 and maybe windows clad over, so possibly an ex passenger coach? I can't see if the doors are single or double, both double would be odd in a coach, but if double, surely a van wouldn't have had the windows?
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A tentative suggestion is that it is a LNER CCT. The last of these were built in 1950, but this might be an earlier variant.
 

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Not seen one like that before. It's a 12 wheeler for starts. Any ideas of the date the photo was taken?
 

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Seems to be a 'pigeon van'. (Check out some images online via Google, Flickr, etc.)

Not one of my specialist subjects though.
 

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Is it one of the special animal vans, the ones with about 8 pens and accommodation for the horses groom or herdsmen (were used for taking prize bulls to shows etc)
 

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Not seen one like that before. It's a 12 wheeler for starts. Any ideas of the date the photo was taken?
Looking closer, it's a conventional 8-wheeler - count the springs! I have a feeling this is a NER design, having seen a similar query somewhere.
 

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I've been spending some time looking both online and in my book collection, and the best I can come up with is a 7mm model from TMS Models of an ex-LNER 45ft Bogie CCT:

https://tmsmodels.biz/product/7mm-scale-br-ex-lner-45ft-bogie-cct-r-n-e1240-weathered-maroon-livery/

It does appear to match the leading vehicle in the photo but of course it would still be good to find a better picture of an original full-size example.
What is the difference between a bogied CCT and a GUV please?
 

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What is the difference between a bogied CCT and a GUV please?

I think that originally all NPCCS vehicles with doors at the end for loading vehicles, a clear interior and some side doors were classified as CCT. When BR was designing its standard vehicles it decided to differentiate between four-wheeled and bogie vehicles, and called the new bogie design GUV, while the four-wheeled one became a CCT. Older vehicles that been CCT continued to be called that, even if they were bogie ones. (This is my deduction from reading over the years.)
 

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I think that originally all NPCCS vehicles with doors at the end for loading vehicles, a clear interior and some side doors were classified as CCT. When BR was designing its standard vehicles it decided to differentiate between four-wheeled and bogie vehicles, and called the new bogie design GUV, while the four-wheeled one became a CCT. Older vehicles that been CCT continued to be called that, even if they were bogie ones. (This is my deduction from reading over the years.)
Covered carriage truck and general utility van i was always tought when i worked on B.R. in the 1970s ;)
 
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