Old route numbers

OxtedL · 15 May 2011

Activity on the quiz forum has made me a little nostalgic:

ralphchadkirk said:
Ok, here we are:
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Track Basher said:
It is on an Uckfield service (route 88)

Probably a Class 203.

Someone get OxtedL from the other game.......

OxtedL said:
Indeed, 88 was VIC<>UCK, which of course no longer runs.

66 was/is VIC<>EGR, 77 LBG<>EGR and 99 LBG<>UCK

5 was OXT<>UCK

Are these route numbers or similar ones used today? I know for example that they appeared on East Croydon platform screens for a while after slammers were withdrawn, but do they have any usage on the modern, modern railway?

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MidnightFlyer · 15 May 2011

SWT/SN 455s still have, for example, 'Shepperton via Wimbledon 55' on the front destination blinds. Quite how many there are I don't know, I assume one for each route they operate (probably about 10-15).

I know Shepperton via Wimbledon probably isn't number 55, it was just an example.

EM2 · 15 May 2011

I've seen them on services at London Bridge recently.
Stoppers to Victoria via Maidstone East were 94, semi-fasts were 96

OxtedL · 15 May 2011

EM2 said:
I've seen them on services at London Bridge recently.
Stoppers to Victoria via Maidstone East were 94, semi-fasts were 96

I hope those are two separate points you made there

Southern for a while had 00 East Grinstead (or other destinations) on the 377s for a while, which seemed to imply they were going to try to include the numbers, but abandoned it after a while. I may have actually seen 66 a couple of times...

Some 455s now seem to have this back I noticed recently, but of course no actual numbers on the display, just 00.

flymo · 15 May 2011

MattE2010 said:
I know Shepperton via Wimbledon probably isn't number 55, it was just an example.

I believe that would be 24.

the first ones I remember seeing were the Portsmouth's from waterloo. 81 for the Fasts, 82/84 for the slower ones. 71 for the fast Portsmouth & Southsea terminators and 73 for the P&S stoppers.

Certainly helped recognition of the services, at least if you knew what they were. Not many destination displays in days gone by.

Peter Mugridge · 15 May 2011

Southern's 455s do indeed carry the route numbers on their electronic destination blinds. And it's not usually 00 either, but the correct one, eg 84...

thefab444 · 15 May 2011

On the South Western sector, generally the first number signified the route, and the second number signified the speed of the service.

For example: 9x was the code for Southampton/Bournemouth/Weymouth, 91 was used for express services, 92 for semi-fast services, 93 for stopping services and 94 for part workings and stopping services. 90 was used for Weymouth Quay services, 97 was the Lymington branch code. Not sure what 95 and 96 were.

Southern · 16 May 2011

Southern still use headcodes 84, 90, 92 and 94 on their 455's.

Hydro · 16 May 2011

Does anyone have any of the route numbers for the Kent Coast services? The only one I distinctly remember was the 4, Ramsgate - Charing X. I *think* there was a x8 (18 maybe) service too.

466.networkers · 16 May 2011

Southeastern used to display them on both Networkers and Electrostars but have got rid of them since the new PIS upgrades on the Networkers and the software upgrades for the Electrostars in 2008/2009 (if my memory serves me correctly!)
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Hydro said:
Does anyone have any of the route numbers for the Kent Coast services? The only one I distinctly remember was the 4, Ramsgate - Charing X. I *think* there was a x8 (18 maybe) service too.

I think this link should be of some help.

Hydro · 16 May 2011

Legend, thank you!

Matt Taylor · 16 May 2011

Oddly enough the old route numbers still appear on our daily guards/drivers schedule cards, for example:

Waterloo 18:38 2G60 42

That is for the 1838 Waterloo-Guildford.

Aictos · 16 May 2011

I've noticed a number of FCC services still using the route numbers during the rare times I've ventured onto the Thameslink route.

yorksrob · 16 May 2011

Hydro said:
Does anyone have any of the route numbers for the Kent Coast services? The only one I distinctly remember was the 4, Ramsgate - Charing X. I *think* there was a x8 (18 maybe) service too.

Charing Cross to Hastings was 22 I believe. ( remember this because the Thumper's often sporting it). As for the rest, I've completely forgotten!

OxtedL · 16 May 2011

Following on from 466.networkers post earlier, I found this http://www.semgonline.com/headcodes/eheadcodes.html

Which seems to list everything. Although I can't find 5 Oxt<>Uck anywhere...when did that service pattern start?

GearJammer · 16 May 2011

the first ones I remember seeing were the Portsmouth's from waterloo. 81 for the Fasts, 82/84 for the slower ones. 71 for the fast Portsmouth & Southsea terminators and 73 for the P&S stoppers.

For example: 9x was the code for Southampton/Bournemouth/Weymouth, 91 was used for express services, 92 for semi-fast services, 93 for stopping services and 94 for part workings and stopping services. 90 was used for Weymouth Quay services, 97 was the Lymington branch code. Not sure what 95 and 96 were.

Would i be correct in saying that number 80 was Portsmouth - Waterloo via Eastliegh?

Southern · 26 May 2011

Just noticed 456's carry some route numbers now.

jd · 26 May 2011

Chiltern display/used to display route numbers.

causton · 26 May 2011

jd said:
Chiltern display/used to display route numbers.

I'm sure I saw one this evening while overtaking it on a Met line train - don't know if they're on all trains though!

flymo · 26 May 2011

GearJammer said:
Would i be correct in saying that number 80 was Portsmouth - Waterloo via Eastliegh?

Sorry for the delay in replying, yes that would be correct. 80 was a Waterloo - Portsmouth Harbour via Eastleigh. There was also the occasional Waterloo - Portsmouth & Southsea via Eastleigh, that was 70.

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