Class 442 info required

yorkie · 27 Feb 2011

I believe that the 18:49 Brighton (BTN) - London Victoria (VIC) is operated by 2 x Class 442 units; can anyone confirm this? Also is the 19:19 BTN - VIC also formed of Class 442s? (If not, what is it formed of?)

Also where are bikes stored in 442s, and how many can you store per 5-car train? (presumably this is doubled for a 10-car set)

Thanks in advance

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MCR247 · 27 Feb 2011

1A53 1849 BTN - VIC is booked 5 car 442
1A57 1919 BTN-VIC is 10 car 442

Hope this helps

Class 33 · 27 Feb 2011

If you don't mind me posting in this thread, rather than digging up an old thread or starting a new one.

I'm planning on taking a trip down to Brighton on a Saturday soon.

Which Saturday services are 442's used on now? Have they taken over completely from 377's yet? I wouldn't want to book a return journey(to get the best price), only to find that it's onboard a boring 377!

TomJ93 · 27 Feb 2011

I also have a 442 question

The slide down windows near the ends of the passenger accommodation, would I be alright opening it and sticking my head out? (When the train is stationary ofcourse.)

387star · 27 Feb 2011

Im going to go to london and back Thursday to sample one

Ivo · 27 Feb 2011

If I may add one as well?

Do 442s run out of Victoria on the faster services on Sundays?

thefab444 · 27 Feb 2011

I'm not sure what bike space is like on the 442s now (it used to be somewhere around 5 per unit?). It wouldn't suprise me if they stripped most of it out when they refurbished the units.

TomJ93 said:
I also have a 442 question

The slide down windows near the ends of the passenger accommodation, would I be alright opening it and sticking my head out? (When the train is stationary ofcourse.)

No, the vestibule windows are locked with a t-key. The only window passengers may open are the two droplights by the guards compartment.

Ivo said:
Do 442s run out of Victoria on the faster services on Sundays?

I believe they are booked to run the xx02 VIC - BTN and xx34 BTN - VIC services on Sundays.

MCR247 · 27 Feb 2011

Class 33 said:
If you don't mind me posting in this thread, rather than digging up an old thread or starting a new one.

I'm planning on taking a trip down to Brighton on a Saturday soon.

Which Saturday services are 442's used on now? Have they taken over completely from 377's yet? I wouldn't want to book a return journey(to get the best price), only to find that it's onboard a boring 377!

I don't have saturday diagrams, sorry

Southern · 27 Feb 2011

The 2136 from Victoria was 2x442 last night. If the express diagrams haven't changed, the same units should have worked the following:

From Victoria at 0906, 1136, 1406, 1636, 1906.
From Brighton at 0749, 1019, 1249, 1519, 1749, 2019.

gareth taylor · 27 Feb 2011

I was at Clapham Junc and saw the Cl 442s on Southern services. How long has this been going on? Sorry for asking daft question. I very rarely go to London.

Thanks.
:oops:

Southern · 27 Feb 2011

December 2008 timetable change, I think.

Peter Mugridge · 27 Feb 2011

TomJ93 said:
I also have a 442 question

The slide down windows near the ends of the passenger accommodation, would I be alright opening it and sticking my head out? (When the train is stationary ofcourse.)

Two things:

Firstly, if they're exactly as they were when SWT had them they won't open far enough to do that and secondly you'd need a carriage key to open them anyway.

Helvellyn · 28 Feb 2011

yorkie said:
Also where are bikes stored in 442s, and how many can you store per 5-car train? (presumably this is doubled for a 10-car set)

If it's the same as when they were with SWT, then it's five per unit, all stored in the Guards compartment. There was a rack that held the bikes, with the front wheels up towards the ceiling and if I recall the handle bars across hooks.

JKJimar53 · 21 Jun 2011

Are the 442's working on all Brighton Express services now, i see on the Brighton mainline timetable that certain services are not suitable for mobility services.

Does this mean these trains are (or at least scheduled to be) Class 442's

class377man · 21 Jun 2011

JKJimar53 said:
Are the 442's working on all Brighton Express services now, i see on the Brighton mainline timetable that certain services are not suitable for mobility services.

Does this mean these trains are (or at least scheduled to be) Class 442's

Correct. Every chance of a 377 for various reasons, especially on Saturdays, but they are scheduled to be 442s.

JKJimar53 · 21 Jun 2011

class377man said:
Correct. Every chance of a 377 for various reasons, especially on Saturdays, but they are scheduled to be 442s.

Great, Thankyou

A-driver · 21 Jun 2011

Generally there are more 377s on the expresses on Saturday's as vic men work a few of them and they don't sign 442s yet. During the week a lot of 442s run the BXP as it's mainly Selhurst and Brighton drivers who do sign them. I think most semi-fast brightens are still 377s.

Fincra5 · 21 Jun 2011

Bikes on a 442.... Whats stupid is the guards area is meant to remain locked when not in-use by staff, as well as the 2 slam doors. So its not even possible to get bikes in there

Drsatan · 21 Jun 2011

Fincra5 said:
Bikes on a 442.... Whats stupid is the guards area is meant to remain locked when not in-use by staff, as well as the 2 slam doors. So its not even possible to get bikes in there

The guard's space wasn't locked when the units were used by SWT: don't know whether that's changed under Southern.

MCR247 · 21 Jun 2011

He is a Southern guard, so I would guess it has changed since they have changed hands

Drsatan · 21 Jun 2011

MCR247 said:
He is a Southern guard, so I would guess it has changed since they have changed hands

Fair enough, I wasn't aware that Fincra5 was a Southern guard

Fincra5 · 22 Jun 2011

Drsatan said:
Fair enough, I wasn't aware that Fincra5 was a Southern guard

I mean I could be wrong but this is what we are told. :lol:

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