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It was a quiz show with 15 contestants who were asked one question at a time (they basically went around in a semi-circle). They had three lives and lost one for every incorrect answer, but gained one back after three correct answers. Last man standing won. I think what I have just typed is correct. It was the boss in the early 2000s though. I do remember the questions being really tough though, maybe Mastermind level.
I remember now. :)
 

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I for one actualy quite enjoy the show. I must admit at one point I didn't, but last series I sort of got quite into it. Although it is responsible for Jedward (Why Louis, why?) It has given us some good musicians, like Cher Lloyd.

My favorite to win this year is Janet Devlin. She is fantastic!

I also quite like BGT.

Now I'm going to grab my tin hat and dive for cover ;)
 

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Waste of time, have not watched it and won't be either. I have better things to do with my time, even watching paint dry when decorating.
I think its outgrown it's use and those judges who we picked for the others, how long have the girls been in music exactly ?


For someone who has never watched it, you seem to have some strong views about it :lol:
 

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It has given us some good musicians, like Cher Lloyd.

smoking something illegal last winter mate? she was truly terrible.

My favorite to win this year is Janet Devlin. She is fantastic!

actually agree with you here, she has an amazing voice, and to me unique sound.


I'm forced to watch it by the wife who is addicted. I tend to go on my laptop, and listen in the back ground.
 

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I have watched the X Factor on a few occasions and those few occasions gave me the conclusion that it was nothing but complete trash, built on the values of laughing at and mocking people who think they have talent and are unfortunate enough to go out and contest, only to be berated and heckled by the public.
 

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I watched it once. Made my blood boil when those brave enough to go on were booed / laughed off the stage by the chavs in the audience. Those on stage have done more with their live then those in the audience ever will!
 

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Kitty scares me. Miss Mica B (where did that come from? Upto live shows she was known as simply Mica) has a serious attitude problem. Frankie Cocozza looks like he's been dragged through hedge backwards while having his throat rubbed with sand paper.
However....i adore Janet and Johnnie.
 

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....But then again I don't suppose for one minute I am in ITVs target audience !!

Are you over 16?
Do you have a brain?

If you answered yes to both these questions, you are not the target audience.

....It has given us some good musicians, like Cher Lloyd....

My definition of musician seems to be somewhat different to yours. A musician plays a musical instrument (even a triangle would count), but, whilst Cher Lloyd is certainly an instrument for the 'music industry' to extract hard earned from the dim-witted in society, that popularity contest pretends to be a singing competition.

If it follows the rules for popularity contests generally, they will have put through some good singers (about 2/3) and some not so good (about 1/3), even if they could have had 100% good singers. In the first few weeks half the 'good' contestants are 'voted out' before they start on the less good ones. The winner will be the one who gets to the final few (maybe 5 or 6), but has the least chance of getting a recording contract (infact they will all be signed up and have records out in a few months).

Oh, was the big twist this year something to do with voting out more than one person in week one? (about 12 weeks to Christmas and 15 finalists(?) means something like that had to happen).

I'm surprised the Big Brother/Lost effect hasn't kicked in yet. You know, you watch one series and it's okay, so you start watching the second, but you aren't bothered if you miss some, series three you barely watch and after that you really don't know if they did a fourth series or not.
 
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My definition of musician seems to be somewhat different to yours. A musician plays a musical instrument (even a triangle would count), but, whilst Cher Lloyd is certainly an instrument for the 'music industry' to extract hard earned from the dim-witted in society, that popularity contest pretends to be a singing competition.

If it follows the rules for popularity contests generally, they will have put through some good singers (about 2/3) and some not so good (about 1/3), even if they could have had 100% good singers. In the first few weeks half the 'good' contestants are 'voted out' before they start on the less good ones. The winner will be the one who gets to the final few (maybe 5 or 6), but has the least chance of getting a recording contract (infact they will all be signed up and have records out in a few months).

Oh, was the big twist this year something to do with voting out more than one person in week one? (about 12 weeks to Christmas and 15 finalists(?) means something like that had to happen).

I'm surprised the Big Brother/Lost effect hasn't kicked in yet. You know, you watch one series and it's okay, so you start watching the second, but you aren't bothered if you miss some, series three you barely watch and after that you really don't know if they did a fourth series or not.

What he said :p

It is no accident that RATM got Christmas number one in 2009.
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The way I see it is that for each auto-tuned "singer" you get on X-Factor you are keeping at least one genuinely talented artists out. In fact it's probably more since it is forcing a style upon people where there should be variety.

It needs to die like Big Brother did
 

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Never been a massive fan and don't intend to watch the current series either.

Have sometimes watched the auditions and also watched the series a couple of years ago, partly because my then housemates wanted to watch it too. There again, it did have Lucie Jones, so I was happy enough (til she went out to Jedward....grrrrr! :P)
 

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My daughter watches it now. I find it unbelievable how someone like Louis Walsh can put some of the crap through that he does. That Goldie woman and that Steve bloke have no place in a singing contest. Britain's Got Talent, maybe yes but not X-Factor.
 

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The issue with the X Factor - and also singers on such shows as Britain's Got Talent too - is that the winner is the most popular out of the demographic viewing the competition on any particular week of the live votes.

With a couple of exceptions, when record contracts are signed after the series, the winner is soon forgotten - usually after just one or two singles (the possible exception being Leona Lewis) and quite often, one of the other finalists will be just as successful, if not more so, when their music gets airplay on commercial radio stations etc, which often have a different demographic to the shows themselves :)
 

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....It is no accident that RATM got Christmas number one in 2009....

Wouldn't be surprised if Sony had something to do with that campaign though.

Killing in the name was recorded on Epic Records which is now part of Sony Music Entertainment.

X Factor winners sign to Syco (Simco Limited) whose parent company is.....Sony Music Entertainment.
 

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Oh yes, I was also going to mention that it leads to railway advertising too...
(my parents did ask me if this sums up the typical traveller :P)

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Are you over 16?
Do you have a brain?

If you answered yes to both these questions, you are not the target audience.

My definition of musician seems to be somewhat different to yours. A musician plays a musical instrument (even a triangle would count), but, whilst Cher Lloyd is certainly an instrument for the 'music industry' to extract hard earned from the dim-witted in society, that popularity contest pretends to be a singing competition.

If it follows the rules for popularity contests generally, they will have put through some good singers (about 2/3) and some not so good (about 1/3), even if they could have had 100% good singers. In the first few weeks half the 'good' contestants are 'voted out' before they start on the less good ones. The winner will be the one who gets to the final few (maybe 5 or 6), but has the least chance of getting a recording contract (infact they will all be signed up and have records out in a few months).

Oh, was the big twist this year something to do with voting out more than one person in week one? (about 12 weeks to Christmas and 15 finalists(?) means something like that had to happen).

I'm surprised the Big Brother/Lost effect hasn't kicked in yet. You know, you watch one series and it's okay, so you start watching the second, but you aren't bothered if you miss some, series three you barely watch and after that you really don't know if they did a fourth series or not.

HHF I salute you! That must be one of the best posts I have ever seen in this section of the forum!
 

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Are you over 16?
Do you have a brain?

If you answered yes to both these questions, you are not the target audience.
I answered yes to the first but no to the second; nor am I the target audience — they may think I am but they have utterly failed.
 

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I actualy thought she was realy good.

Either way she is better than One Direction. The one hit wonders


You're all forgetting Cher Lloyd IS a cheryl Cole look a likeeee.....Which will please Heinz immensley if i'm not mistaken....

You are the forum CC fan are you not Heinz?? ;)
 
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With a couple of exceptions, when record contracts are signed after the series, the winner is soon forgotten - usually after just one or two singles

So true, Matt Cardle who won the last series has literaly only just started doing anythig. A whole year after he won. Rebecca Fergerson who came 2nd (The runner up usualy gets a record contract, and to my understanding she did get one) we havn't heard hide nor hair of her. Incidentaly, the most successful contestant from last years contest seems to be Cher, and she came 4th! She has now released two singles, one of which stormed straight to number one. Before the winner has actualy done anything

You're all forgetting Cher Lloyd IS a cheryl Cole look a likeeee.....Which will please Heinz immensley if i'm not mistaken....

You are the forum CC fan are you not Heinz?? ;)

Don't get me started, not again! :lol:
 

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So true, Matt Cardle who won the last series has literaly only just started doing anythig. A whole year after he won. Rebecca Fergerson who came 2nd (The runner up usualy gets a record contract, and to my understanding she did get one) we havn't heard hide nor hair of her. Incidentaly, the most successful contestant from last years contest seems to be Cher, and she came 4th! She has now released two singles, one of which stormed straight to number one. Before the winner has actualy done anything

Amply illustrates what a farce the whole tortured, boring, laboured excuse for entertainment it is!
 

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Amply illustrates what a farce the whole tortured, boring, laboured excuse for entertainment it is!

It's McDonalds for music: people who just want a quick fix but artists who never are in it for the long run. Fame should be earned through years of work, not through weeks of voting-offs etc.

I respect those that watch and enjoy X-Factor, but it's as far apart from music as John O'Groats is to Land's End.
 

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According to Wikipedia the following have signed to Syco. Those in bold won the competition they entered.

Current artists

Il Divo (2004–present)
Leona Lewis (2006–present)
Andrew Johnston (2008–present)
Alexandra Burke(2008–present, in a joint deal RCA Records 2011–present)
Susan Boyle (2009–present)
Olly Murs (2009-present, in a joint deal with Epic Records 2010–present)
Labrinth (2010–present)
Jackie Evancho (2010–present)
Matt Cardle (2010-present in a joint deal with Columbia Records)
Rebecca Ferguson (2010-present in a joint deal with Epic Records)
One Direction (2010-present)
Cher Lloyd (2010–present)
Ronan Parke (2011-present)
Jai McDowall (2011-present in a joint deal with Sony Music)

Previous artists

Gareth Gates (2002–2006, dropped/left)
Steve Brookstein (2004–2005, dropped)
Bianca Ryan (2006–2008, dropped/left)
Angelis (2006–2007, disbanded)
Leon Jackson (2007–2009, contract not renewed )
Same Difference (2007–2009, contract not renewed)
George Sampson (2008–2009, dropped)
Rhydian (2007–2010, contract not renewed)
Paul Potts (2007–2010, contract not renewed)
Escala (2008–2010, contract not renewed)
Westlife (2002–2011, Moved to RCA Records)
Shayne Ward (2005–2011, contract was not renewed)
Joe McElderry (2009–2011, contract was not renewed, now with Decca Records)

Which says a lot really.

I answered yes to the first but no to the second; nor am I the target audience — they may think I am but they have utterly failed.

I didn't say you are (although it is brave of you to admit you don't have a brain), but even if you are, your not watching it doesn't make you any less of the target audience, much like watching it does not make you the target audience. It doesn't even matter if you think you are the target audience or not, nor does it matter if they have been successful in getting you to watch it, you are the target audience or you are not, there is no other option.;)
 

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I don't recognise many of those names but my daughter tells me George Sampson is acting in Waterloo Road now?

She also tells me Matt Cardle cannot sing, I told her that he basketised Biffy Clyro's song to death. What she fails to realise is that most songs these days contain flashbacks to yesteryear, her favorite Professor Green being one of the sample using ones as well :) (and she gets annoyed when I tell her he is not a real professor)

I do have to say I liked Jai McDowall although he needs to man up a bit. Ronan Parke is a Bieber lookalike :)
 
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