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Class 67 duties and usage

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anyone know whats happened to 67023 it has gone from the line of 60,s its been in for the last year at toton

Still listed at Toton with a tentative release date of 31/01 but don't read too much into that.
 
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Firstly-Angel Trains own the locomotives
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ECML thunderbird (Kings Cross/Bounds Green/Doncaster/Newcastle)
ATW (Training at the moment)
Chiltern (Passenger Service)
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ATW
67001-67003 (3 Locos (ok, only 2 done at the moment but once services start))​
Royal Train / Freight duties
67005&67006 (2 locos)​
Scot-Rail Highland
67004, 67007, 67009, 67011 (4 locos)​
Chiltern/WSMR
67010, 67012-67015 (5 locos)​
EWS Company Train / Freight duties
67029​
ECML Thunderbirds
5 locos from the rest​

Is that correct? I know nothing myself, just trying to summarise what's been said on this thread so far. The above adds up to 19, so 11 not listed. They can't really need that number in for maintenance at once, so still quite a bit of slack in the fleet for more freight work, open access operations or dragging ECML electric trains to off-wire destontaions.
 

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ATW
67001-67003 (3 Locos (ok, only 2 done at the moment but once services start))​
Royal Train / Freight duties
67005&67006 (2 locos)​
Scot-Rail Highland
67004, 67007, 67009, 67011 (4 locos)​
Chiltern/WSMR
67010, 67012-67015 (5 locos)​
EWS Company Train / Freight duties
67029​
ECML Thunderbirds
5 locos from the rest​

Is that correct? I know nothing myself, just trying to summarise what's been said on this thread so far. The above adds up to 19, so 11 not listed. They can't really need that number in for maintenance at once, so still quite a bit of slack in the fleet for more freight work, open access operations or dragging ECML electric trains to off-wire destontaions.

ATW:- 67022/ 29 covering as 67001 - 67003 out of service at the moment.

Chiltern:- 67010 stored Crewe IEMD.

ECML Thunderbird:- 67016/20/1/6/7 at the moment.
 

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Which way round do you prefer the livery? Dark grey at the front or light grey? They are a damn sight quieter to drive when the dark grey is at the front!
 

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Which way round do you prefer the livery? Dark grey at the front or light grey? They are a damn sight quieter to drive when the dark grey is at the front!

Dark grey at the front is best because then it matches the coaches and mirrors the DVT. Is it quieter one way round due to engine location?
 

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Slightly Off Topic But Better Than Starting A New Thread,

What happens if one of the Scotrail 67's fails, say Half way along a single line section, with hardly another locomotive for miles what would the rescue plan be?
 

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Dark grey at the front is best because then it matches the coaches and mirrors the DVT. Is it quieter one way round due to engine location?

No, its the radiator room. The engine is in its own room in the middle of the loco, there is a clean air room (quiet) at one end and a radiator room (noisy) at the other. A 67 is never going to be the quietest cab in the world, but if you are right in front of the radiator it doesnt half make a racket at times.
 

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67003 at Holyhead with flat batteries!

Someone forgot to either switch off the tail lights or open the battery switch tut tut
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What is the difference except the Wrexham and Shropshire is missing?
 

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I don't know if there is ANY difference apart from the words Wrexham and Shropshire now gone.

http://englishelectric.zenfolio.com/p553184638/ec9ea8fb

Personally I prefer the dark grey, although when I saw 67001 painted in it's new-look 'Laira Blue' last October I thought how much it actually suited the class. That EWS scheme does them no favours whatsoever.

FWIW in a Class 50 it's also noisier in the end with the fan in. With the fan on full chat it sounds like a helicopter and can almost suck you into the compartment. Sadly you never really hear 50s like this since in preservation they never get to the temperatures that require the fan to work at this speed - whereas during the summer months on a hot day after they'd pulled load 13+ over the Devon banks they certainly did!
 
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I don't know if there is ANY difference apart from the words Wrexham and Shropshire now gone.

http://englishelectric.zenfolio.com/p553184638/ec9ea8fb

Personally I prefer the dark grey, although when I saw 67001 painted in it's new-look 'Laira Blue' last October I thought how much it actually suited the class. That EWS scheme does them no favours whatsoever.

FWIW in a Class 50 it's also noisier in the end with the fan in. With the fan on full chat it sounds like a helicopter and can almost suck you into the compartment. Sadly you never really hear 50s like this since in preservation they never get to the temperatures that require the fan to work at this speed - whereas during the summer months on a hot day after they'd pulled load 13+ over the Devon banks they certainly did!

which is where the term "when the **it hits the fan" comes from- a long standing bad habit amongst US and UK drivers when faced with a loo at the wrong end of the loco or no loo atall.
 
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67002 working todays route learner between gloucester and cardiff, I saw it heading east at coedkernew at 13:08
 

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What happens if one of the Scotrail 67's fails, say Half way along a single line section, with hardly another locomotive for miles what would the rescue plan be?
The plan for dealing with single-line failures in Australia is to get the nearest available locos which can handle the load to go and couple up. They need not be locos from the same operator, all the operators will help clear a blockage because of self-interest - their trains can't make any money if they're sitting still waiting for a blocked line to clear. Having a smaller range of coupling and multiple-working standards is a big plus for making this work.

The train (with original locos still attached) is then hauled in the direction of the rescue locos, regardless of whether that means the train is reversing or proceeding. Whether it gets hauled just to the nearest passing loop or yard, to the nearest yard of the failed train's operator, to the destination or back to the origin depends on the degree of damage and what's going on in the area in terms of operations.

If it's serious damage like a seized axle which makes the loco unable to be moved by rail, it could even be lifted off the line. It would then be shifted by road, or even left beside the line pending temporary repairs to enable it to be re-railed and hauled dead. If it's a really old loco due to be retired soon, it could even be retired immediately and dismantled on site.

In the rare event of a passenger train failing in a remote location, passengers would be transferred to coaches and/or planes if it could not be hauled to the intended destination. If the train is stranded in a location not accessible by road, this could cause a few people some major headaches.
 
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