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    Bus Driver Shortages

    That's the point i was making. I must have imagined clearing £200 a week in the 1980s when I started, put that though the bank of England inflation calculator that would be £600. In a 200 driver depot there were 3 new starters that year, I was one of them. They need 3 a week now. Decent...
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    Bus Driver Shortages

    Checking your vehicle, using a tacho, keeping it legal and delivering goods are what HGV driving is all about. It soon becomes second nature. On the plus side, he is getting a break after 4 and a half hours, a luxury many bus drivers can only dream of. It boils down to what sort of...
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    Bus Driver Shortages

    Bus driving is effectively a retail job where you are also expected to drive a bus and the only way to keep drivers is to reward them appropriately. Other countries with similar economiess to our seem to manage it. Most of the people I know who left didn't go to HGV, many went to retail, the...
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    GoNorth East

    Go NE are short of drivers because it's £9.08 an hour, I could be driving for them in week if they wish, but not for that money. My next door neighbours kid gets that for collecting glasses in a bar, he is 16 years old. Hands up who thinks 9 quid an hour is a reasonable wage for bus driving?
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    Bus Driver Pay

    You have a point, perhaps I am being a bit unrealistic. But a recent advert stating "up to 20k a year", with no reference to the hours required, makes that statement meaningless. In the last non-driving job I applied for (NHS), I knew the length of the working week, the shift patterns, and the...
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    Bus Driver Pay

    Possibly as a result of contributing to this thread, I am now seeing adverts for my local company who I used to work for. Just over a tenner an hour with the dizzying prospect of an extra 30p an hour on Saturdays and Sundays. They don't mention conditions, shift lengths or overtime rates, nor...
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    Bus Driver Pay

    The entire set up of the UK outside London industry is to set drivers against drivers. Add in the way union power has been ground down and it makes it very difficult to take effective action. Post privatisation we had a gradual gaslighting in conditions and pay. Every year things got a little...
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    Bus Driver Pay

    Very good post. For those with experience of the industry we can find out what the best deals are, and you are right, the hourly rate is not the be all and end all. But for new starters it is difficult to find out, as I said up thread, they won't even tell you the hourly rate until you apply...
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    Bus Driver Pay

    My local firm, Go NorthEast is looking for drivers. They won't tell you the hourly rate in vacancy adverts, but after a bit of digging I found it was £9.08 an hour. Most drivers who have been there a while will be on about 12 quid an hour but the conditions are often horrendous, with shifts...
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    Strathclyde Passenger Transport boss in car scam

    Indeed. Regarding well off peoples cars, I know a number of doctors and surgeons who drive decent model cheaper cars that look like they have been to the moon and back, my cousin has a golf with 200 000 plus miles on it that looks like a shed. A tatty shed at that.
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    Strathclyde Passenger Transport boss in car scam

    I doubt his son is in any trouble, who checks the registration of every car they get into and then checks it against their memory of another , same make car of the owner? Even if he knew, he has plausible deniability. Doubtless the chief is now desperately looking for a way to blame his garage...
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    Difference between a bus and a coach?

    A DP to us would be what looks like a coach with a single narrow door and 3 or 4 steps, ok on a long run but entirely unsuitable for city work, it was a pain in the arse if you got one. Sorry, I didn't know what kind of bus they were. Edit, just checked, possibly a Leyland Leopard. The deckers...
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    Difference between a bus and a coach?

    I thought the speed limiting thing was a relatively modern thing? We certainly had service buses that would exceed 70mph.
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    Difference between a bus and a coach?

    I have no idea of modern regulations, but back in my day a " coach" would be any bus they were allowed to use on private hire, we had a number of double deckers fitted with tachographs which were used as such. Mostly the more modern, well built Olympians. This was unusual at the time and...
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    Bus Drivers - Would you recommend it?

    Ha, yes, I see what you mean, just trying to bring a bit of realism to the thread. Regarding trains, pre 1986 we were on the same ( very good) money as the Metro drivers, it was easy to transfer but few did. Lord how I wish I had now, green eyed monster and all that. Now bus driving is less...
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    Bus Drivers - Would you recommend it?

    Bus driving is as stressful as you want it to be, if you race around trying to keep unrealistic times and bite when other motorists or passengers are trying to wind you up then it will be stressful. If you can let this all wash over you or better still, give it back in a manner that won't come...
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    Bus Drivers - Would you recommend it?

    I am aware of this but have never worked it, just checked and it's 8 30 with total " breaks" of 45 minutes, I assume this could be 3 x 15 minutes. Worth the OP checking and if he is happy with this. Do these 15 minutes have to actually exist or just be timetabled? I once had a manger tell me...
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    Bus Drivers - Would you recommend it?

    If my maths is right 25 k for 43 hours is 11 quid an hour, not bad by modern standards. In real terms I was making way more than that in 1985. Are those 43 hours all driving? There are so many variables, is it split shifts,remote clock ons? I would ask to have a look at the rota you will be on...
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    Buses with the passenger heaters on in hot weather.

    I have béen suspended for refusing to drive a bus with the saloon heaters jammed on in hot weather. The companies argument was that the cab heaters weren't on. This was over 20 years ago. I pulled out my company rule book and pointed to the bit that said passenger safety and comfort were my...
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    Buses with the passenger heaters on in hot weather.

    This is exactly what I was referring to, either the driver has been deliberately driving round with the heaters on in warm weather, in which case he is in trouble, or the company is not prepared to admit what they are doing. I know who I believe. They bypass the cab controls to make the...

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