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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    The Sunday agreement will be dealt with without harmonisation-it will be dealt with in he next (October) FCC pay deal. That's probably why GTR are already making contingency plans for an all out strike by GN and TL drivers before Xmas (seriously-they are). I don't know why harmonisation would...
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Why would they want driver harmonisation? There's nothing in it for the company.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    I'm purely talking driver harmonisation. No other grades. FCC and southern/GX are being kept as seperate companies in many ways-including contracts, T&C, pay and driving policies.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    No. Not tht they ONLY balloted southern and Gatwick-GN and TL would never be balloted without full harmonisation. The injunction is as they included southern in the ballot which the company claims only affects Gatwick. Full harmonisation will never happen as it would be too expensive-FCC is...
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    Driver eyesight

    Reading tht document is one thing but understanding it is another-which is where most people's questions are coming from. Most are not trained opticians and so knowing what the standards are in terms of reading a chart is what people seem to be asking.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    How patronising towards those in such jobs. You believe that as you clearly support such Tory policies and are anti Union-your post history proves that. So suggesting I'm biased (rather than realistic) is rather pot, kettle, black!
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    My point is that a zero hours minimum wage 'walked all over by your employer with no life out of work' style job may be better than unemployment but it dosnt mean it's justifiable to make it the norm for employment. Tory jobless figures are very misleading as the jobs they are creating force...
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    So in other words a race to the bottom? How dare these people have good jobs when I don't have a job at all. I'd do their job for less without any of the perks because it's better than I currently have. Rather than look at what you could have you should only look at those worse off than you...
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Job creation to the Tories certainly didn't mean give people a 4day week 50k job with good pension, T&Cs and protection from being abused by your employer. Job creation to the Tories means to force people into dead end 0hours contracts with minimum wage, no pension and make them a slave to their...
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    What rubbish. The fact that 9 out of the 11 PTI incidents the RSSB investigated were DOO hints that perhaps DOO is less safe. It's not about it being UNsafe. It's about it being LESS safe. And less safe dosnt always relate to people being killed and injured. It also relates to their members...
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    It also mentioned that this was related to Peter wilkinsons comments regarding forcing strike action to break unions.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    82% turnout, 95% short of strike, 84% for strike action. Pretty strong result.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Appears drivers ballot is back and from what I hear it's a strong return in favour of strike and even stronger for action short of. Havnt seen actual figures yet.
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    Driver eyesight

    As I say, 3/60 is the old domestic standard. The new EU standard is stricter but can't remember what it is.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Not always. Strikes may be better supported if staff arnt loosing as much money-ie work RDs to make up for lost wages. All depends how the ballot returns and if Aslef decide to take strike action, action short of or both.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    It's only southern and Gatwick being balloted as Thameslink and GN are not harmonised so, as far as this ballot goes, a seperate company. So Thameslink drivers won't be involved in strike action. As I say, drivers see this ballot as about the tearing up and ignoring of agreements and refusal...
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    Driver eyesight

    I believe the 3/60 standard is outdated as the new EU rules on train driver medical fitness are stricter. Not entirely sure what the new standards are but I believe it's stricter than 3/60 uncorrected and now stricter than the 6/9 & 6/12 corrected.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Not sure if you are deliberately misunderstanding. The company are trampling over every agreement and this is a big one to loose. Train length or model makes no difference to the actual issue here-te company are just taking what they want and the staff won't have it.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    My point was meant to be that it would take a very considerable amount (unrealistic amount) for the majority of drivers to accept such a big change and downgrade to terms and conditions. GTR drivers are at rock bottom morale already and are not looking to do any favours for the company. They...
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    It's highly unlikely a rest day ban and strike would happen simultaneously. Normally rest days continue to help fund strike action. Drivers are not going to strike over saving the guards job. They will strike as they don't want the responsibilities of DOO. May sound selfish but drivers would...

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