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but the 27 DON'T want the same things out of the deal do they?

but then conversely, by the law of averages a party of one should be more united and unanimous in what it wants than a party of 27 with various individual requirements shouldn't it? On that evidence it really does show what a shower our politicians really are

well actually I don't have much faith in politicians. FULL STOP.

because the outcome of Brexit will also affect the rest of the people in the other 27 EU nations...

well to be fair it didn't help that they were negotiating with both hands tied behind their backs... or that they weren't actually empowered to actually negotiate anything.... after all the "chequers agreement" was produced by May, I suspect with no consultation of her Brexit Minister. I also...

I would rather we didn't... but if we have to then so be it... what has become clear from the "negotiations" is that the EU is totally intransigent.... and has, to be honest, conducted them in much the same way as remainers have debated: EU: how shall we deal with the NI border? UK: we can do...

oh well.. you know the old saying... if you don't engage in the process you can't complain at the outcome....

As I have said before... a pre- Maastricht relationship... with the addition that we can take full control of our borders. Literally a trading relationship with absolutely no political union.

Don't forget though... most of the companies that have said that they are moving out of the UK do not blame Brexit as the reason for doing so.. they are doing so because of the uncertainty caused by Brexit

I suggest you read back through the threads... you will see that I have done much much more than that... I have given detailed reasons why I voted the way I did... what I wanted in an ideal world... and what would work for me as a compromise.... and the general level of "debate" on my views from...

anyone reading my posts will see that your accusation is false... please if you can't be bothered to have a rational civil debate then stop trolling me... there's only one person you're showing up... and it isn't me.... oh and if you don't stop trolling my posts then I WILL report you to the...

So your response to my point that the reports/ forecasts are biased by being produced by anti-Brexit bodies is to cite a report by our Chancellor of the Exchequer... who, IIRC, it was made a big thing of when he was promoted to the post, is anti- Brexit was my post aimed at you? no it wasn't...

no it hasn't... not yet.

a one line response from a remainer that doesn't answer a single point raised.... another example of the superior remain intellect and debating skills lol. I haven't demanded anyone changes their mind... what I have - repeatedly- asked is for remainers to accept that if Brexit goes ahead {and...

another fine example of the remainer "altruism" that they claim they have that makes them superior to leave voters... who only ever voted for selfish reasons.

in your opinion. What remainers don't seem to grasp is that there are no facts in this situation when forecasting the outcome of Brexit... only theories. It may be that remainers are right.. they could just as equally be wrong. I'm sure now I'll be pointed to the "vast body of evidence" that...

if it's got nothing to do with you when are you emigrating? you're not? then it WILL affect you and it WILL be your problem/ solution as it will be mine. It's basic logic really... you live in this country.. so the decisions/ agreements made by this government in your name WILL affect you... or...

not expected to make it work... just make suggestions instead of just shouting foul... that's the problem with democracy... sometimes you're asked to make a policy/ decision work whether you voted for it or not.... of course there is always the option of finding a country ruled by dictatorship...

did I say help deliver it? No... but all remainers do is, at best, stand on the sandlines shouting "We're doomed... we're ALL DOOMED" in their best impression of Pvt Fraser.... considering that Brexit WILL happen and that the deal brokered WILL affect remainers as equally as leavers it doesn't...

and how exactly does that relate to Remainers refusing to accept the outcome of the referendum in the first place? or their refusal to make any reasonable and valid ideas of how to achieve the democratic will of the people? The deal isn't terrible because a Remainer came up with it... it's...