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Hi all, I've had a change of plans and instead of travelling Southampton to London Waterloo, Kings Cross to Leeds I need to go from Southampton to Birmingham New Street, New Street to Leeds. Would this be a permitted route? i assume so. My ticket is a super off peak, any permitted route...

Yeah, that probably would be more 'cost-effective' than buying completely new stock. But if 442s gain a reputation now for spontaneously combustion, the press may not agree! Just thinking of the APT-T, which would have been fine with more development, but because it was rolled put to early it...

Well, you might not have seen, but earlier a Gatwick Express 442 set on fire, and they are getting very old, so I think that is unlikely to happen:cry:

I guess that having the F/C at the wrong end doesn't really matter a huge deal, seeing as they have no coach numbering thing, or platform signs that say what coach will stop at that position

Sorry, hadn't thought of that. Last week, my train split at Southampton (where we live, and for a 14 year old SOuthampton is VERY boring) and the front half went express to Weymouth and the back 5 went on a stopping service to Bournemouth

The other day I was coming back from London and the guard had explained that this had happened to our train, which was why the F/C was in a different position than normal

I'm sure I once saw a report on South Toady (the local news of that area) which said that they couldn't run 10 car trains down to Weymouth because they did the electrification really cheaply and it couldn't give enough power for 10 cars. They tried a test run at night with 10 cars and it was...