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John that was a very useful description of blocking back and made absolute sense. Is it possible that the self same rulings would have applied to the Quintinshill/Caledonian boxes in 1915. Chris Spreckley.

1) Do not the words used indicate the meaning? 2) I think you should have been at the various hearings if you know how the signals were operated and engineered. I have certainly not read any definitive proof of your engineering and use statements. All engineering was in its infancy fitted in...

I said I am out of this thread but I have to thank you for your agreement on the status of the Parly. But: I cannot find anything that says that Meakin, (for Meakin it would have to have been due to time) cleared (as in cleared away) the signals after the coaler was placed in the sidings. What...

Taunton, Oh-kay thanks for that. The thread has wobbled so far of course though from my request for help with lots most people offering almost stupidly simple answers from common reportage so that at this point in the exercise all we are getting is reported rhetoric so from now I'm out. As...

HI. Taunton, Your guessing again. 1] I said that the LNER was probably formed in 1922. Probably out of the NER. 2] The LMS didn't exist in 1915. It was constituted at the beginning of 1923 and mainly from the Midland Railway and other grouped railways. The principal owner user of the road...

Taunton, I know that the NER., had running orders over the self same Cal'y lines with their own tracks leading from Newcastle to Carlisle and the LNER., was I think constituted on or about 1922 as the first edition of their rule book commences there. Whether the LNER., continued with those...

Hi, Has anybody managed to find a copy of the Caladonian Rules and Regulations of 1906, the last that I can find published by the CRA., prior to 1915? I have written the CRA., requesting a copy but so far have not received a reply. The earliest R & R's that I have been able to get hold of...

Kirkpatrick's signalman of the moment Thomas Sawyers said that this had happened. That was after the death of some 240 persons.......What would you have said? I do though accept that there is some evidence of that communication but I am not sure its proof positive. Chris S. --- old post above...

First a lot of reasons and statements you provided are not apparent in May 1915reportage of the moment, enquiry, inquest or trial. Most people talk of sending blocking back and that Meakin said he could not do it because............ This is not reported speach of Meakin I believe but current...

There is as far as I can determine no evidence with respect to this. Chris S.

The local, according to written evidence was on the move almost simultaneously with the coal empties moving first. I have been unable yo read anything about the coal empties prior to their ambling character and arrival in the home area of Quintinshill other than the sole action of Meakin being...

This is I accept a very intricate course of argument and interpretation, but are you not puttying the horse behind the cart. 1st of all the Welsh Coaler was going straight through until it was stopped, so at that time the distant should have been be set to off. 2. At that precise time it...

Dear SBT, Thank you for drawing attention to the books review by Mr., Stanwegian In paragraph 5 of that review he reiterates the final known fact of many that made me start this thread. If we are to believe this review, (which I have to say seems to be written with some authority) then this...

OK you guys I guess what I have allowed myself is to follow the books and information found where ever I can and not getting a clear enough picture all given that all of the rules set down in this thread by others are in reality known to me. I suppose I am still going to be struggling over...

TomNick, MarkyT, & TomWebb Where I'm coming from: Thanks for your explanations. I am and always have been very keen about our railways being born on and still living with the CLC., as my personal toy railway at the bottom of my garden; my main consideration is in copying as close as...

Must have missed that Mr., SuxxesMan, many thanks for pointing it out. I had not understood that the signal was pulled off after accepting the trooper as I was reading the "Up home" as the Home and not the "Distant" signal. It was then pulled off by Tinsley as George Meakin was, I think...

I have been studying the most terrible accident at Quintinshill signal box and for the life of me cannot see why Mr., Meakin could not be held totally to blame, but this could be because of my ignorance. My conjecture lies about why when Meakin placed the Branch Line Local by crossing it to...