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    Trivia: Services that are almost unchanged since deregulation

    Sheffield: Every route will have changed since the city’s road layouts have changed (most significantly to accommodate the forthcoming trams in the nineties but also schemes like pedestrianisation of Leavygrave Lane meaning university routes can’t make the old left turn off the ring road, more...
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    How to make Sheffield Victoria an attractive concept

    I think that there are two fairly distinct things getting discussed here A “simple” Stocksbridge - Barrow Hill (Chesterfield) service seems a relatively low cost reopening (I mean, it’s going to cost a fortune, it’ll be terrible value for money, it’ll avoid a lot of residential areas en route...
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    New additional TPE rolling stock

    Apologies for repeating myself, but we seem to be having the same arguments on multiple threads… If the argument is that that “TOC X is so busy that it needs 10x26m trains, not just on certain sections but permanently coupled together” then TOC X can afford a second Guard/ Trolley, whether...
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    What could be done to make the Whitby line better?

    I wasn't the one who said it’d be “economically viable”, I’m just questioning what you meant by “economically viable”… since it sounds like you were suggesting it’d pay for itself, or at least that it’d be so busy that trains could run with no subsidies… … but it sounds like you’re backtracking...
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    Sheffield Supertram & Tram Train news

    It was half hourly pre-Covid, but it was every twelve minutes with through trams to Hillsborough* in the early days of Supertram (when Meadowhall was just a shuttle to the city centre) My take on the branch is that it’s a problematic stub (like Malin Bridge) which should either have been built...
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    Scottish Citylink

    The problem there is that you’re doubling costs (second coach, second driver) for the number of people inconvenienced - presumably the company have done the maths and decided that the big increase in expenditure wouldn’t be rewarded with a commensurate increase in revenue
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    What could be done to make the Whitby line better?

    Just a thought, but maybe one reason why the Whitby timetable isn’t based around convenient connections from Wakefield (a place approx seventy five miles away from Middlesbrough) is that maybe Wakefield isn’t quite as important a flow as the OP’s personal opinion? Maybe the passenger data might...
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    Delay Repay Claim for Physically Impossible Journey on Brigg Line

    Has it actually improved anything though? Or is this just another one if these daft stunts that makes “activists” feel better about themselves, looks silly in the eyes of the general public and makes no difference to how The Powers That Be handle things? “Increasing awareness” and “effectively...
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    How could the railway be more attractive for London-Glasgow journeys

    In the grand scheme of things, the numbers flying from London to Glasgow each day is pretty tiny and and will be very hard to make “zero” (e.g. passengers on connecting flights, passengers for Inverclyde/ routes over the Erskine Bridge), there are much better/ simpler markets to target where...
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    Delay Repay Claim for Physically Impossible Journey on Brigg Line

    It’s already going to be a horrible loss making line The OP has contributed a situation where the TOC felt obliged to spend more on a taxi than the (total) ticket revenue will have been Result is that the Brigg line looks even less viable, and is more likely to lose return tickets that may be...
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    Manchester Piccadilly platforms 15, 16 pulled, but £72m nearby

    “Why do politicians hate railways” people ask… then you look at how little we can deliver for tens of millions of pounds of infrastructure and… I can’t blame them if they feel heavy Rail didn’t deliver great value for money TBH! Whilst the rest of Northern England makes do with tiny schemes (an...
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    Future of the Settle to Carlisle, Bentham and Ribble Valley lines

    Any news about the cost of replacing that footbridge on the Bentham line? Or are we still running several replacement coaches for a station with just a couple of passengers a day? I’d be fine with 170s going there, it ties up a small non-standard fleet with a small relatively self contained...
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    Why does this current U.K. Government hate rail so much.

    Yes, BR had the freedom to cut lines, BR had the freedom to withdraw evening/ Sunday services are relatively short notice, BR had the freedom to introduce multiple increases to ticket prices each year, BRc had the freedom to chop 155s into single coach units… Is that what you want the railway to...
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    Why does this current U.K. Government hate rail so much.

    I don’t think that the conspiracy theory stuff helps anything here, nor does digging up Marples or trying to pretend that Tories are some kind of “bogeyman” But it felt inevitable that putting the railway in Government control would mean paralysis and penny pinching, just like every other...
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    Sheffield Supertram & Tram Train news

    If you want to walk the (approximate) tram route from the city centre to Halfway then the two main problems are… 1. the viaduct south of Granville Road (to get to Park Grange Road, you’d have to walk along Farm Road, with the viaduct high above you) 2. The section though the East Midlands...
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    Class 221 for Grand Central

    . I thought that received wisdom was that the EMR would be going to GC, not that GC would be giving up all of their 180s? Oh well, yet again the speculation was wide of the mark . Given the reliability problems of the 180s, if I were GC I’d be more focused about getting fit trains into service...
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    How to make Sheffield Victoria an attractive concept

    It could be transformational if long distance stuff stopped at Meadowhall. It’s already a handy hub between various coach services which divert off the M1 to serve it as a kind of “Sheffield Coachway” on routes that previously ran direct up the M1 omitting any stops in South Yorkshire But...
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    How to make Sheffield Victoria an attractive concept

    Based on the “old” timetable of the following services at the north end of Sheffield station 4x Chapletown (two terminating, one to Nottingham, one to Lincoln) 2x Dearne (one terminating, one to Birmingham) 5x Doncaster (three terminating, one to Manchester, one to Birmingham) 2x Darnall (one...
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    Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

    My view is that one conductor would struggle to get around a two hundred metre long train sufficiently often, as would one refreshment trolley Given all of the other costs on the railway, a second person doing those roles doesn’t seem a significant imposition, if we are saying that the trains...
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    Which city in the UK is most likely to get a Tram/Light Rail system next?

    Agreed Middlewood had the buses terminate at the Park & Ride by the tram terminus, the two sets of “Bus shelters” were back-to-back - https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-W6pKtd3U__Q/Wf7X_YBc2SI/AAAAAAACygU/KK_6I1IMNfIblbePRx_jwhpSnQHByXRcgCLcBGAs/s1600/screenshot.43913.jpg It couldn’t have been any...

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