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    Bee Network Service Improvements (Existing services)

    I assume the well off Greater Manchester residents are happy to pay for a new bus service and everyone will be happy to use the bus or team instead of their cars even in the shocking weather we're experiencing these days. I read on another forum that it has cost, so far, £137 million to set up...
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    I was in Manchester the other day. It struck me that Birds could do a deal to sponsor the buses and advertise their custard. It's so bland and was nice to get back to a good range of liveries over past 30 years or so. I also thought that the area around the bus station was so scruffy.
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    Almost all businesses have pride in their brands which often have cost them a significant amount to build. If they aren't allowed to display their logos then if a Stagecoach, First or Go Ahead bus doesn't turn up regularly they won't be blamed by the customers and as you say, customers couldn't...
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    Just curious, are companies allowed to put their own corporate logos on repainted Bee Network buses like they are in London? I only ask as have seen them on any photos and only seen them at a distance. Thanks
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    Stagecoach Yorkshire and Chesterfield

    I haven't seen the livery but I'm guessing that it was gold overlaid with vinyls which would make the decision an easy one until they're repainted in the new livery.
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    Stagecoach Yorkshire and Chesterfield

    Is it the 'new' gold livery or have they used up paint and painted it in the old livery?
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    I want to live in cloud cuckoo land too! Last time local authority ran Manchester's buses they were right heaps in the main because there were so many demands on money elsewhere and no cost of living crisis with the government up to it's eyes in debt and unable to help.
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    People are living in cloud cuckoo land if they believe the claptrap of the Mayors of Greater Manchester and West Yorkshire with their ‘ bus every ten minutes’ and ‘£2 per journey’ etc. etc. Their proposals rely on constant funding from Government and poor bloody Council Tax pares subsidising...
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    Bus ridership has been on a downward trajectory for years, and will continue. with the car and trams scooping up passengers and the permanent increase in home working. Taking that into account, and the Mayor promising huge increases in bus services’ frequencies and reductions in fares, someone...
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    See Manchester Airport, owned by the local councils, is a great example of organising a transport system. Should be fun when they get hold of local bus services. Booze ups and breweries spring to mind!!
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    So I assume every single privately owned business, from Chineses takeaways, supermarkets, chemists, newsagents, cafes and restaurants, pubs and bars, could care less about quality of service as long they make money. What absolute rubbish, without profit businesses can’t invest. It is essential...
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    TfGM-website, timetable updates and general news concerning TfGM bus stations.

    According to another forum service 402 is the be operated by Stagecoach but TFGM timetables have Stotts running it. Does anyone know which is correct?
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    Stagecoach have made huge investments in the fleet and also the new garages at Ashton and Wythenshawe and the fleet has improved immeasurably since they took over GM South. I think some people live in cloud cuckoo land as business can grow, invest and increase wages unless they make a profit...
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    Still taxpayers money, OR borrowing which will be paid back, with interest, by my children and grandchildren. As it is taxpayers money why not find the cheapest way of improving services? How much will be paid to buy the buses and infrastructure owned by bus companies? Never known any...
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    I didn’t say that the problems London face are due to franchising but that there has been a seed change in the use of public transport. Franchising has been put forward as a cheap, efficient alternative to the current set up whist maintains the same, or even exceeding, the same quality of stock...
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    What’s happening in London with the extremely serious funding situation and bus and tube services probably being cut, despite the expensive subsidies from the congestion charge, doesn’t bode well for the proposed franchising in Manchester. The permanent change in working habits with a...
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    Stagecoach Repaint Updates

    Googlebus - perfect!
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    Stagecoach Takeover Discussion

    I wonder if the deal goes through, whether the competition authorities would take the opportunity to break up the monopoly that National Express have in the West Midlands bus market?
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    Stagecoach Takeover Discussion

    There seems to be an assumption that it would be Flixbus that would take over Megabus if the merger goes ahead and it is sold off. I would have thought that, as they are already the major shareholder in Megabus, and CityLink, in Scotland, and would appear to want to expand in the U.K., they are...
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    Stagecoach Repaint Updates

    It has started to grow on me and I think it’s much better than the ‘local’ livery and mighthave been a better national standard livery. 1627559867 P.S. Just a thought. The use of blue on the front end of buses, especially in parts of Manchester with Diamond, Arriva, some independents and now...

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