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Is the branding not remaining the same, just the “by Arriva” lettering being removed?

The main reason for length is because Mk1s were generally a lot shorter, being between 17m and 19m long. Compare that to a modern intercity train which is usually between 23m and 26m. For example, an 11 coach 390 is 26m longer than a 14 coach set of Mk1s, and a 9 coach 80x is only 4m shorter.

According to TPE on Twitter: 397003 1M99 0628 LAN-MIA 1S38 0807 MIA-CAR 1M97 1333 CAR-MIA 1S75 1607 MIA-EDB 1M95 2011 EDB-MIA 397006 1S35 0726 MAN-CAR 1M96 1233 CAR-MIA 1S71 1510 MIA-GLC 1M94 1908 GLC-MIA 1S98 2310 MIA-PRE

The Flowing Silk livery was temporary, the trains needed repainting as part of maintenance and since the franchise was up for renewal a base white scheme was chosen. Virgin then added the red flowing silk at the ends so their identity remains but could be easily removed should they lose the...

Any news on what diagrams they’ll be running today?

TPE’s units only entered service at the end of 2013. Prior to that the Scottish services were 185 operated.

I don’t think they ever did, they simply remained in Connex livery. From pictures it seems they transferred still in Connex livery before being reverted to NSE livery by WAGN

Any chance of them running next week? Hoping to catch one on Monday on 9E09

Yes, I see that now.

They’re also used on TransPennine’s Mk5A sets, and will be used on their 397s too, and at least according to artist impressions (which aren’t always accurate) the LNR 730s will also have them for first class

Thanks for that, RTT seemed to be suggesting it continued with the rest of the diagram

Are there any further workings today or will a 185 take over at Newcastle?

Closest thing I can think it would be is one of TransPennine Express’s Class 802 units out on test on the line, which all but one are currently in a plain grey livery. They have 5 carriages, not 7, however

https://twitter.com/davidpo22194359/status/1162032316744687616?s=21 Seems the first unit has now been completed

Has anyone got any idea which diagrams the 195s are working today? Particularly on the Windermere branch?

1: Class 483s (Island Line) 2: Class 313s (Southern & Great Northern) 3: Class 43 HSTs (Multiple Operators) (Correct me if I'm wrong)

It wouldn't be adding new stock if they're used to replace the 319s as right now the 319s are unique on this side of the Pennines

I see, makes sense. Still would like to see them up in the North, although that's probably because they'd be my locals then, and they wouldn't necessarily have to get rid of the 3+2 seating then since the 319s already run with 3+2, although I rarely see all three seats being used at once

Seems a bit of a waste after all the work done to do them up. Besides, I can't really see why SWR would want to replace 5x23m intercity-style sets with 4x20m commuter sets, especially considering the 442s are owned by Angel whilst the 350/2s are owned by Porterbrook

It does seem that way. Doubt the battery units would be able to go all the way to Barrow and back from what I've heard, otherwise they'd be a good fit for Northern's WCML services from Manchester. At the moment though, the only place the whole fleet can really go is to replace the 319s