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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    None of what you have said has anything to do with my previous statement about ''BR Dinosaurs'' as you put it in previous posts. My point is merely you bad mouth ''Br Dinosaurs'' and their moaning when it is because of them and their attitude you have the T's and C's that allow you to do the...
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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    And where exactly did these T's and C's come from? Did they just fall out of the air? No they came about because of a strong union, and a union is only as strong as it's members. The T's and C's have stayed that way because of a strong union without which the T's and C's would have been...
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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    I was just being a bit dramatic for effect when saying elites meaning brain surgeons or any super talented job you can think not just someone who has been to further education. Just really to make the point that there is already plenty talent within the railway as we aren't looking for quantum...
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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    hahahaha I love how you think the majority of internals out there aren't from operational roles again as a train driver myself who has been around the industry for a long time and knows many people in other TOCs than my own what you say just isn't reflective of reality! I have never come across...
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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    Always great to start off with a false analogy! Just because you know a train driver that used to be an airline pilot does not make that the norm! Hence why I said ''General fodder'' as these are the most representative groups you will find driving trains across all TOCs that joined...
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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    In my opinion yes they should be these roles before hand and that is the general consensus within the railway from my experience. People that work in the railway know that it is wise to get a job like that to then move into driving after all it makes sense. You are correct that the people they...
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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    It says operational railway experience which in my TOC is known to mean safety critical work therefore Guard, Shunter and Dispatcher. Any TOCs I've come across the vast majority of internals are from these jobs with the bulk being guards. It is seen as a natural progression and similar to the...
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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    Yup precisely. They have more of a tendency to be purely out for the money and screw everyone else. Things like guards and DOO but even when it comes to pay deals signing away rights just for an extra few quid at a 40% tax rate. That is why companies like hiring them though easy to water down...
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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    I'm hardly the one that is bitter nice bit of projection there. The only bitter people on here are the ones crying because XC only want people with a good grounding of railway experience which says everything. There are many good externals but there is a core element of them who like to look...
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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    The stats come from my managers and union reps but I suppose you know better than them just like everyone else in the railway as only externals know anything of course us railway folks are simply clueless.
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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    Fact is stats go to show externals have far more incidents than internals which is all there is to say about the matter. There is no substitute for route knowledge rules knowledge and railway know how built up over many years.
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    Train Driver Jobs: Internal or external recruitment

    Mod Note: Posts #1 - #66 originally in this thread. I take my hat off to XC for taking this approach. I have a university degree and many years highly valuable railway experience as well as outside experience before I got a chance of my driver's key. These Johnny come latelys that turn up...
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    Experience working for Virgin

    Yeah I get where you are coming from but I did all the out going enthusiastic personality stuff and had years and years of the most relevant experience to the job and got beat to the job by a very shy quiet guy so just goes to show how it's pot luck often in this game
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    VT Trainee Driver - EXAMS.

    What company is this apprenticeship with that you are talking about?
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    Qualified driver applying for a trainee driver position

    Well you learn something new everyday! As you can only apply for the vacancies as they become available I had always thought about the situation of getting a job with one of the lesser TOCS to then see a lner or vtwc come on the market
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    Qualified driver applying for a trainee driver position

    Yes it was a cover letter to answer two questions why do you want to be a train driver and why do you want to work for vtec? And also your C.V Almost all of the qualifieds got rejected straight off the bat bar this guy and maybe one other but only the one got a job as far as I know. I wonder...
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    Qualified driver applying for a trainee driver position

    I know of a qualified driver who applied for and got the trainee vacancy with vtec now lner that they advertised to much ho ha end of 2016. This example has always made me think of your question.
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    TPE: First Group UK Careers: 6 Trainee Driver opportunities arise

    You probably dream at night of walking through picket lines to impress management given your attitude.
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    TPE: First Group UK Careers: 6 Trainee Driver opportunities arise

    Maybe if they paid DIs more money and didn't shaft them by only handing out temporary DI positions there would be more people interested. But what would I know after all you are the expert with the head full of steel and I know absolutely nothing!
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    TPE: First Group UK Careers: 6 Trainee Driver opportunities arise

    As you are such an expert on everything about me do list off my qualifications and attributes otherwise keep your conjecture to yourself!

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