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    Arriva Rail North DOO

    Well said, especially the second paragraph. Do you think recent and ongoing industrial action causes this or have the undertones been there for some time?
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Thankfully there were people with a different view to employment when things like paid holidays, paid sickness, redundancy, TUPE, etc, etc, etc were introduced.
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    Should Whelan Resign?

    I disagree with your timeline and your further jump from robots distinguishing apples from oranges to fully automated rail travel but it's way, way o/t. Last word on this from me: Any current driver in their late 20s has nothing to fear. You may disagree but I see how the current system...
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    Should Whelan Resign?

    Yes, somewhere in the world, within 20 years, without the political meddling, with sufficient funds and foresight and all built from the ground up using latest technology.It could happen. In the U.K. (You know, where we're based, where the forum is based) with all the hassle, lack of funding...
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    Should Whelan Resign?

    I haven't been mentioned but I still find his rambling hilarious. :lol:
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    Should Whelan Resign?

    I have no doubt that, at some point in the future, we'll see a form of transport resembling what we call 'trains' today operating without staff. But, it doesn't fill me with dread as we'll both be long gone. Your range of 10-20 years has now gone to 'ultimately one day'. Your bets...
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    Should Whelan Resign?

    10-20 years for a full network of driverless trains? I'll have a pint of what you've been drinking please.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    After reading your previous comments on guards and drivers and your opinion of their career choice I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a response from experienced staff if I were you.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    An opinion shared by many unfortunately.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Thanks for the reply. No need for confusion - your list didn't answer my question but this post does. Striking always, always has to be the final resort but an option it should remain. I honestly hope you're correct about the Zee case but if you're not then God knows what happens when a...
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Not sure if serious.... But, in case you are - DfT and Government have their grubby mitts all over this and have for some time. It's political posturing from inception to end, interference and misleading rubbish all served with squirming, lies and a fortune spent on every angle trying to...
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Aslef GS asked the transport secretary to 'support this new process' - turning up and taking a seat at the table would be a good start.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Good news and nice spin - Aslef offered to suspend action for new talks to take place.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    I disagree with much you've posted in this thread but you don't come across as daft or hard of thinking so please don't avoid my question. Don't try to over-think or guess what I'm getting at - what would be productive about doing a job, following company procedures to the letter and still...
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Agreed. Propaganda, pure and simple.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    You're a driver and my 'hypothetical' becomes reality. How would you feel doing the job whilst waiting weeks, months or years for a judicial review to go through the courts? Any possible industrial action wouldn't be because of a Jury's decision - it would be because of failings in management.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    And there we have it. Professional, trained and experienced staff don't know what they're talking about but you do. I don't resent you but I kindly suggest you stick to taking pictures of trains whilst those trained and experienced in their operation carry on blissfully unaware of you and...
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Cognitive dissonance. Well researched, known about for years and denied by the very people suffering from it. Reference this thread where ignorance is called out as such and read the replies.
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    Again, a member without experience adding more white noise. Those with any sense will see that 5 minutes spent reading the views of experienced staff is worth a weeks worth of the some of the other drivel posted by experts, sitting in carriages/advising pilots as and when. I'm aware of...
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    Southern DOO: ASLEF members vote 79.1% for revised deal

    We're so fortunate to have members like yourself, sans ego, using hyperbole to deflect alleged hyperbole. After 700 pages one thing has become apparent - professionals, trained and experienced know what they're talking about. Others don't. Feel free to move on.:D

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