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    Go North West

    Route 95 Salford > Bury is the only one i can think of
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    Low floor coach - third time lucky?

    A Panther LE might work on routes like the Hexham > Newcastle express routes by GNE (could be abit tight going round Ovington on X84) or used on the SD workings of route 685 Carlisle > Newcastle. At a guess,that could be due to isle of Skye school contracts requiring less capacity than the...
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    [TRIVIA] Longest Dead Runs

    GNW (former First) route 100 has one dead run from Cheetham to Hollins Green on a morning,at around just under 14 miles First Hunslet Depot has dead runs on a morning to Huddersfield & Emley for the contracted runs on 232 at about 20 & 17 miles (later running dead from Wakefield to Middleton)...
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    First Group: General Discussion

    Do Stagecoach have enough room at their Middleton & Ashton depots to take on anymore former First routes? might sound like a long shot,but could replacing Oldham with an outstation somewhere in Saddleworth for routes 83/180/184 be an option & let other operators take on the other routes - call...
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    First West Yorkshire & York discussion

    I agree with most of your observations,One of the main reasons Leeds is seeing such investment is also because of the Low Emissions zone due at some point next year,the odd thing is that it seems to be mostly the older cascades that the rest of West Yorkshire are getting,compared to the...
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    Why is it if another bus operator takes over, they might move the routes to higher up numbers?

    Yorkshire Tiger tried did this with the Ex-HJC routes,in 2015 bringing them into the 500 number range that most Halifax routes have used for years. the Rye Lane service went from service 36 to 511,Highroad Well went from 28A to 540 (not sure why it was numbered 28A,as i dont think there was ever...
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    First Group: General Discussion

    Problem is,it's at the wrong end of the route for peak flows (towards Manchester in the morning/towards Leigh/Atherton in an evening) The other option to reduce dead milage would be introduce extra morning trips out of Manchester & into Manchester on an evening,but i doubt it would help much.
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    The bus service from Winlaton serves more than just Newcastle,It serves the business & industrial parks around the Chain Bridge & Scotswood Road area & the College at the end of Scotswood Road,so it is possible a number of journeys from the Blaydon/Winlaton area are not all just for Newcastle...
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    TfGM Bus franchising

    There is a couple of issues with this idea,firstly some people simply do not like taking the tram for various reasons (Anti-social behaviour,overcrowding at peak times & such) with trains also being overcrowded already at rush hour,without trying to add what are currently bus passengers into the...
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    Bus routes which have never quite taken off

    Halifax to various major shopping centres: - The M62 to White Rose (then onto Leeds) & more recently the X80 (also serving Birstall Retail Pk,but only in 1 direction) - The M60 to Trafford Centre (Starting in Bradford) what was then replaced by an extension to service 560 (or possibly 561)...
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    Places served by two or more routes with the same number

    Leeds has Transdev 7 (Leeds - Harrogate) & First 7 (Leeds - Primley Park) plus used to have 2 Stagecoach X62s (Leeds - Huddersfield Now Withdrawn & Leeds - Hull) & going by VOSA,Newcastle will have 2 route X47s from Eldon Sq soon,the current one to Kingston Park & the current GNE service 47...
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    Mixture of single and double decker operated routes

    Arriva Yorkshire has a fair few: Heckmondwike Depot: 200/1/1A & 229 all use a Mix of Wright Eclipses,Wright Gemini 2s & the odd East Lancs Lowland Wakefield Depot: 117/195/196/174/481 all use a mix of DDs & SDs,with evening & sunday services mainly using the smaller Enviro 200s. 148/149 also...
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    Edinburgh Tour Operators: Bright Bus, Lothian (Majestic, Three Bridges) etc.

    That would be a smart idea by Lothian,but First could always do a add on/discount ticket for tourists using their Transpennine Trains into Edinburgh,possibly doing it online/Mobile only so they would get the revenue before Lothian even had a chance to get them onboard.
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    Is it possible to travel from Birmingham to Manchester by local bus in one day?

    A Quick look on traveline came up with another slight quicker (plus possibly cheaper & maybe more scenic) way: 10A Walsall > Lichfield 11:00 - 11:52 X12 Lichfield > Burton 12:20 - 12:42 V1 Burton > Derby 13:15 - 14:27 Transpeak Derby > Buxton 14:45 - 16:42 61 Buxton > New Mills 17:20 - 17:50...
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    New multi-operator ticket for Staffordshire

    East Scotland have the 'One Ticket' what covers various zones (but oddly i do not think there is an all zones version),with both Bus Only & Bus & Train versions https://www.one-ticket.co.uk/home Whilst Dundee also have their own more local version,the ABC https://www.abcbustickets.com/
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    Stagecoach Group (Group-wide matters)

    For Merseyside,could history not just repeat itself & if they took over the Arriva depots then they could just sell 1 (i believe this is what Arriva did with Gilmoss when they first entered Merseyside) ,Yorkshire shouldnt be an issue as Stagecoach dont operate into West Yorkshire (apart from 2...
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    First Group: General Discussion

    I think Stagecoach could get away buying Bolton,with Arriva,Transdev,Vision & Cumfybus still operating in the town i think that might be enough to keep the CMA happy Go Ahead would be a good fit,with the possible franchising in GM,Go Ahead seem to be doing very well in areas that already have...
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    Operators who adopted/retained the livery of companies they bought buses from

    Maghull Coaches adopted the Brighton & Hove Red/Cream livery after gaining a number of East Lancs Cityzens from Brighton,with a number of vehicles gained from elsewhere now in the livery. Think Maghulls are the also the only ones to adopt a tagline as well as the livery,with them using the...
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    TfGM-website, timetable updates and general news concerning TfGM bus stations.

    Todmorden outstation (i think thats the one your thinking of) can now accommodate DDs since it became a full open air space a few year agos,but i think its more down to the Halifax end of the 590 not needing DDs due to the higher frequency/major roadworks around Hebden Br/Mytholmroyd area no...
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    35 Minute Frequency

    Back in i think around 2006-2007 First Chester ran the Plas Newton route Every 9 Minutes,before reducing it a year or 2 later to Every 11 Minutes (these days Stagecoach run it Every 30 Minutes,less frequent but at least its clock faced) More recently,First WY have started to run timetables...

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