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    Lothian Group discussion (Lothian City, Lothian Country Bus and East Coast Buses)

    The Lothian City brand seemed to be a flash in the pan when these buses were introduced a few years back along with the old Edinburgh Corporation crest logo, but gradually faded away. Looks like current thinking is to identify brands by just using red, green and blue buses these days. Plus...
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    Lothian Group discussion (Lothian City, Lothian Country Bus and East Coast Buses)

    I suppose the next logical question is why a company would want to disguise vehicle ages at all. We've easily established these were originally registered in 2007, have been refurbished, and are really quite reliable buses. This is surely everything that passengers, insurers, drivers, or second...
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    Is there way of making the Caledonian Sleeper more profitable?

    Passengers on a tight budget remain at liberty to share the seated coach. Another business idea might be to strike a deal with other prospective travellers online, splitting the cost of a twin room or double bed. Maybe passengers could try start by putting out offers on this forum, perhaps...
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    Lothian Group discussion (Lothian City, Lothian Country Bus and East Coast Buses)

    The 'board at flag' topic arises quite frequently on here. I feel it's especially important in the city centre for safety, equality and queue discipline reasons. Other operators are catching on but their passengers still tend to poach - ie move some distance upstream in the hope of boarding...
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    Edinburgh Tram developments

    I don't think Ratho has been served by commercial services for some time, if at all. The buses are financed by Edinburgh Council due to low demand and high operating costs. McGill's had massive problems with driver and vehicle availability so had little option but to cut back routes, including...
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    Edinburgh Tram developments

    Latterly the bus company has been short of driver resource and may see less need to run parallel routes. But to be honest there isn't a huge reduction in bus provision along the western section of the tram route. Really just a significant drop in frequency of the 22 route. The 100 remains quite...
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    Lothian Group discussion (Lothian City, Lothian Country Bus and East Coast Buses)

    With inflation in the 5% to 10% range over the past year they may not have much choice. No reason why bus fares shouldn't be reviewed and adjusted annually, just like regulated rail fares.
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    Edinburgh Tram developments

    Moving other traffic away isn't popular with those whose travel can't easily be done by tram. Edinburgh has already displaced much traffic along its single tram line between Haymarket and Picardy Place. Apparently the next step is to move many bus routes away from the city centre. This section...
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    Edinburgh Tram developments

    Absolutely correct. Routes with the heaviest bus density and passenger demand are the clearest candidates for running trams. I've seen how trams have created difficulties for other traffic (including buses) on Shandwick Place and Princes Street. I imagine Leith Walk is the same although I'm not...
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    Edinburgh Tram developments

    Might be a daft question but if new rolling stock is required for the north-south lines do the carriages really need to be the same design as the east-west lines? For example I imagine the London Underground uses significantly different types of trains for each line.
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    Caledonian Sleeper

    Some nostalgic contributors to this thread claim a low-cost journey in such circumstances (admittedly by rail in a berth rather than road) would be popular. But as you say, it's really not a great way of travelling.
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    Lothian group (Network/Route Speculation)

    Strictly speaking it isn't supposed to work in that direction. The commercial proposal would be allowed and in theory encouraged. But I know what you mean and it's the reality these days.
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    Lothian Group discussion (Lothian City, Lothian Country Bus and East Coast Buses)

    Yeah, it ran between Wester Hailes and Waverley Bridge via Lanark Road, Slateford Road, Fountainbridge, Johnston Terrace and Lawnmarket if I remember rightly. I could be wrong but I believe that was the route up to deregulation around 1986 at which point the route was withdrawn. Hardly...
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    Lothian Group discussion (Lothian City, Lothian Country Bus and East Coast Buses)

    Maybe training for another airport route. Was it the 35 and 300 from Lothian that used to go via Chesser? But seriously, there could be a whole host of reasons why a training bus ends up in a particular location so perhaps we shouldn't read too much into this.
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    Tap and Cap: does it work?

    I don't have any experience of Plymouth but in Edinburgh the system has worked OK for me. I haven't heard many stories of passengers being overcharged and I'm a bit sceptical if anyone claims this. Personally I've been undercharged a couple of times (I've never known others boasting about being...
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    Has public transport ever run on Christmas and Boxing day?

    From what I recall, bus services have always run in Edinburgh, West & East Lothian on Christmas Day, Boxing Day and first two days of January, albeit with council support for some routes. I believe Lothian or LRT ran festive season buses from the mid-1990s without any Edinburgh Council support...
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    Lothian Group discussion (Lothian City, Lothian Country Bus and East Coast Buses)

    The costs associated with operating buses at this time of year might dwarf any fares collected. Many will have Ridacards or concessions meaning a bus loaded with 100 passengers as it approaches the city centre may only have taken about £50 in fares or concession reimbursement. Nevertheless...
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    Lothian group (Network/Route Speculation)

    It might suffer a similar fate to other express services from Bathgate and Linlithgow routed along the motorways. That said, Transport Scotland's M9 and M8 bus lanes might make a small difference at peak times, and of course Winchburgh is still waiting for its railway station.
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    Lothian group (Network/Route Speculation)

    My understanding is that they're allowed to do so but would need to inform the shareholders. Up to now, the question of operating outside the Lothian Region boundary defined in the 1970s hasn't arisen as there was never any desire on the company's part. Peebles and Dunfermline were never...
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    Haymarket to Dalmeny electrification

    Yes, quite right. But I believe they're still trialling gantry designs to withstand weathering on the Forth Bridge and this section won't have wires for some time. Therefore services north of Dalmeny will need some 'reserve' power which isn't available on all train designs, in addition to the...

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