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Desirable: qualified train driver Salary: £23.8k Are they taking the mick?! What kind of person is this ad actually aimed at?

This is interesting, I wonder if we're talking about the same position(s). I was contacted last week in what seemed a very rushed manner to get booked in for a medical for a start date "this winter" with a FOC after presuming my application was dead in the water and had no chance of ever...

Interesting, thanks for clarifying that. It probably isn't any more expensive, the medical I did with one of the TOCs in an engineering role had CUT and Ishihara on the desk, they did CUT for me as the role had zero tolerance for any type of colour vision defect. CUT is pretty much the same as...

What evidence/experience do you have to say the alternative testing is slim to non-existent when a candidate already has proof of their colour vision? People here have been in this situation and are now driving trains. Common sense would potentially show that this could be one of those...

Please read back, we are all in agreement that the railway do use the test he's done already - it is literally in writing by the RSSB on guidance for train drivers vision. We just don't know what situations they allow people to do these alternate tests, so far, nobody knows with proof.

Reread the summary, you're a bit off topic... Now I have to go read firefighter regs... damn you!

To summarise, as many are missing the point: - OP has sat and passed a much stricter RAF medical (presumed from the typo of "fighter fighter") which has a requirement for 100% perfect colour vision, they failed Isihara but passed the MORE comprehensive and as easily administered CUT - this test...

Just because you say, doesn't mean you're right... is the summary of the entire thread. At least one person here has offered a counter argument saying they were offered additional testing during their train driving medical, anecdotal still, but seems to offer nothing other than confusion for the...

Yet their guidelines say they can and do use alternate tests... Seems to be the people vs the literature here.

I'm not accusing anyone of discrimination, quite the opposite, I'm saying it's unlikely they'll bother ignoring their own guidelines on alternative testing on the grounds of "it's not easy" and "we've got plenty of other people" as some are suggesting here. Quite simply your entire comment...

Glad you haven't been pulled back in, looks like you're beyond the point of return now so it doesn't matter, let yourself go and enjoy life! Aviators are given a 3 month restricted medical if their BMI is out of range and there isn't a good reason why, if they haven't lost weight in 3 months...

Some people seem to be almost taking it to heart that there are people who work on solid facts, as opposed to anecdotal evidence, which is the only point I've made here... anecdotal evidence seems to be overruling potentially empirical evidence supporting the OP's case in that s/he may be able...

Is he identified? I thought nobody knows who he is...

Because all employers have a responsibility to approach medicals and disabilities with fairness as to not disadvantage someone for reasons beyond their control, and there are very strict rules on how to do this. I don't know of any company that willingly flirts with the 2010 Equality Act during...

I'm a 6 hour commute from the one I applied for most recently that had a 60 minute commute rule, their HR team asked me if I was willing to relocate if offered the job following successful selection. I was offered an initial interview but didn't take it in the end.

We're trying to find evidence of this, someone saying it with such certainty must have access to empirical evidence granting them such certainty? This, like everything else we've found, doesn't seem to give a clear-cut answer other than 1) you MUST have perfect colour vision (nobody is...

I think we're all quite aware that this discussion isn't about "keep doing it until you pass it", it's more about finding absolute evidence for the OP that his/her potential failure of Ishihara means 0% chance of becoming a train driver in the UK as other testing (which can prove full...

As I've mentioned, it's clear you cannot have defective vision... but it's clear you can take an alternative, approved test. It just doesn't mention when this is the case and exactly which other tests can be used. There isn't only one test which can prove colour vision, there are literally...

I think they'd be sailing quite close to the wind on discrimination if the legal guidance states alternative methods can be used but you discount it on cost and time, but that would be for solicitors and suits to decide. Regardless, the alternative measurements are only allowed if the governing...

I wouldn't say it is clear cut as further down it mentions a medical practitioner can use alternate methods to prove colour vision to be normal if the Isihara test is failed. This is what the OP was basically asking, and it looks like as with other industries, you are given a chance to use...