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    Bought Child all area day saver instead of 16-18 day saver

    If the penalty fare is appealed, yet the appeal is unsuccessful then I believe the fare is then a civil debt owed to Merseyrail. Can this debt legally be enforced against someone under 18?
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    Caught fraudulently claiming refunds for journeys that were made

    If the previous transactions for the refunded were also on apple pay then it's possible they won't be able to trace you unless Trainline have your details.
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    Caught fraudulently claiming refunds for journeys that were made

    If you used a guest account (or a real account with fake details) and apple pay, then you may not be identifiable. Otherwise they will be able to trace you through the details given to the ticket seller (even if they've been subsequently deleted), or through the payment method you used as...
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    Northern Claim I should get refund not delay repay - start short journey by own transport means

    It would help if you could give some timings and details of the journey you should have made verses the journey actually taken, and your actual arrival time at your destination and details of the timings of replacement transport Was the branch line closed on the day or had the train been...
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    Caught with invalid ticket

    They may be able to get your details through your payment card linked to your apple pay although I don't think this is actually possible. It's also possible if the inspector recognises you in the future they are more likely to take further action, the likelihood of them recognising you will be...
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    Forgot Railcard

    Unfortunately this is not actually the case. You must have your Railcard with you on every journey. If you are required to buy a new ticket you are able to claim a refund once in a twelve month period. This does not apply in the OPs case as they were not given this opportunity (I have my own...
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    Got caught touching in on exit gates for over a year

    It's hard to answer your question without knowing what you were charged with and under which act. Did you receive a court summons?
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    Fined by Merseyrail as I had “come too far” without a ticket. Should I fight it?

    This image shows the signage at Sandhills. The OP will have stepped off the train on the platform on the left of the picture. The ticket office is located further along the platform behind the staircase. This image was taken when the station is quiet. Imagine being in a crowd of several hundred...
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    Fined by Merseyrail as I had “come too far” without a ticket. Should I fight it?

    Moorfields is the most likely place to change trains on this journey. At Moorfields it's probably a 10 minute round trip from the platforms to buy a ticket. As you aren't supposed to miss a connection, the fact that there are 8-12 tph makes the OPs case stronger as going to the ticket office...
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    Report for Prosecution and Previous Penalty fare HELP Please

    When you say you were reported for purchasing a discounted ticket, did you actually travel?
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    Penalty Fare Notice - Advice needed after 3 failed appeals

    Possibly, although unlike a penalty fare appeal the 21 day clock doesn't stop whilst the ombudsman considers the case. Therefore I would recommend that the £50 is paid, and then a refund is requested should the ombudsman find in the OPs favour.
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    Penalty Fare Notice - Advice needed after 3 failed appeals

    My guess is the county court would automatically conclude that the debt is legally due to penalty fare legislation and the fact that the appeals process has been exhausted. The OP would have to put a very convincing argument that the appeals process was flawed which would probably require the...
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    Ticket retailer refusing to refund unused ticket after passenger decides not to travel due to disruption

    The OP is definitely entitled to a refund. I'm sure any PA at the station would announce the train as DELAYED by approximately 12 minutes not on time. Even a 1 minute delay entitles them to a refund if they choose not to travel. I have abandoned journeys for short delays, where for example I...
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    Ticket Irregularity Report

    That was on the 23rd. The OP travelled on the 22nd (the original post yesterday stated they'd travelled the previous day). According to Real Time Trains the train left at 17.43 1/2
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    Northern guard gives misleading advice to passenger trying to use ‘LNER only’ ticket due to cancelled LNER service

    It may be that the guard was advising the passenger of future use. Whilst ticket acceptance was allowed on that day, if a passenger has used their ticket on a Northern service once they may assume they can do so again (the guard may have had experience of this happening in days when the LNER...
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    Ticket Scanners

    I know, I was responding to a post suggesting people won't buy when challenged from Waterloo. The majority of fare dodgers probably don't know how the machines work. It does also depend on how the machine is setup as to what information it gives out.
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    Transport Investigations Limited Stories

    Exactly and if the train was non stop from Cardiff then they had no valid ticket for their full journey.
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    Transport Investigations Limited Stories

    That is not true the fare was not excessable beyond its origin so a new ticket was required. That fare wasnt paid for before boarding the train by the OP. Exactly there has to be a line drawn somewhere. The line is quite clear in law that the ticket must cover the entire journey. Had the OP...
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    Transport Investigations Limited Stories

    Unfortunately TIL/TFW can probably successfully argue in court that 1) The passenger did not hold a ticket for the journey they made. 2) A fare was avoided, the single fare from Pencoed to Bridgend* was not paid. As a return ticket is not excessable beyond its origin, a zero fare excess is not...
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    Ticket Scanners

    I would actually expect a number of people buying when challenged. There will be those who short fare to get through the barriers (eg ticket to Vauxhall even if the train doesn't stop there). They then have a ticket to their actual destination in their basket ready to pay if an inspector enters...

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