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Rich McLean

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Ah so the 3 diagrams on Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday is staying for a little longer then?

I know they have been these last two weeks due to lack of voyagers (or maybe lack of turbostars = use of voyagers on turbostar diagrams -> lack of voyagers) but I didn't anticipate this lasting too long.

I need to work in a way of doing the January diversions via Westbury - would be a lot easier if I was still at home coming from Cheltenham!

No idea what they will be yet. What dates are the Westbury diversions. Just Sundays?
 
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Diagrams for the Westbury's are as follows

Saturdays (03/01/15 until 17/01/14):
1V44 0600 Leeds-Plymouth. / 1S55 1325 Plymouth-Edinburgh.
1V50 0608 Edinburgh-Plymouth. / 1E73 1625 Plymouth-Leeds.

Sundays (04/01/15 until 18/01/14)
1V48 0810 Leeds-Plymouth. / 1E63 1524 Plymouth-Leeds.
1V50 0900 Leeds-Plymouth. / 1E67 1625 Plymouth-Leeds.
1S53 1225 Plymouth-Edinburgh.
 

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Chiltern's Saturday service now has three loco hauled trains each way, but haven't seen anything to indicate if these will operate in the Christmas period.

Just wondered if anyone had any update on this.
I will be travelling out of Marylebone on Dec 27th
 

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Is the 2P75 17:30 Aylesbury to Princes Risborough still diagrammed the bubble under the new timetable?

Edit - It appears to be, same with the non-stop 18:00 service
 
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In the XC 220/221 section, IP00 should be shown as departing BRI at 0520 and not 0600!
 

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SWT Refurbished 456s

455+456+456 formation.

5J05 05+25 Wimbledon Park Depot-Waterloo 05+43
2J05 06:06 London Waterloo-Hampton Court 06:42
2J12 06:53 Hampton Court-London Waterloo 07:30
2D11 07:36 London Waterloo-Guildford via Epsom 08:50
2G22 09:07 Guildford-London Waterloo via Cobham 10:07
5G22 10+18 London Waterloo-Waterloo CHS 10+20
5J57 10+31 Waterloo CHS-Hampton Court 10+59
5Y56 11+06 Hampton Court-Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 11+43


5D11 06+01 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs-Dorking 06+53
1D12 07:01 Dorking-London Waterloo 07:52
5D12 08+19 London Waterloo-Waterloo CHS 08+21
5J55 09+01 Waterloo CHS-Hampton Court 09+29
5Y55 09+36 Hampton Court-Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 10+13

5M03 05+56 Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs-Wimbledon 06+08
2M03 06:10 Wimbledon-Chessington South 06:28
2M10 06:39 Chessington South-London Waterloo 07:15
1D09 07:24 London Waterloo-Dorking 08:12
1D18 08:31 Dorking-London Waterloo 09:25
2J19 09:36 London Waterloo-Hampton Court 10:12
2J26 10:24 Hampton Court-London Waterloo 11:01
2D25 11:09 London Waterloo-Guildford via Epsom 12:20
2G36 12:37 Guildford-London Waterloo 13:37
2M35 13:46 London Waterloo-Chessington South 14:20
2M42 14:39 Chessington South-London Waterloo 15:15
1D41 15:24 London Waterloo-Dorking 16:11
1D50 16:35 Dorking-London Waterloo 17:25
2J51 17:36 London Waterloo-Hampton Court 18:12
2J58 18:24 Hampton Court-London Waterloo 19:01
2D57 19:09 London Waterloo-Guildford via Epsom 20:20
5Y60 20+28 Guildford-Wimbledon Park Depot Sdgs 21+12
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Thameslink 377s on South Eastern services
All trains formed of 8 car 377s. (Except 2N76 & 2N80 to Ashford)

5K67 05+04 Grosvenor Carriage Shed-London Victoria Pfm 3 05+10
5K68 06+28 London Victoria Pfm 3-Rochester 07+18
2K91 07:28 Rochester-London Blackfriars Pfm 4 08:35
5B91 08+51 London Blackfriars Pfm 4-Bromley South 09+25
1B90 09:32 Bromley South-London Victoria Pfm 7 09:51
5B90 10+04 London Victoria Pfm 7-Bellingham Sidings 10+21
Then works Thameslink services in the PM Peak.

5A91 05+00 Ashford Hitachi Depot South Sidings-Ashford International 05+29
1A91 05:32 Ashford International-London Blackfriars Pfm 3 07:05
1F95 07:19 London Blackfriars Pfm 3-Maidstone East 08:30
1F97 08:45 Maidstone East-London Blackfriars Pfm 3 09:51
5U47 10+57 London Blackfriars Pfm 3-Grove Park Shed 11+46
5P90 15+43 Grove Park C.S.D-London Charing Cross Pfm 1 16+08
1H90 16:20 London Charing Cross-Hastings 17:48
5H90 17+54 Hastings Pfm 4-Hastings Pfm 1 via Park Sdg 1 18+09
5H91 19+43 Hastings Pfm 1-Park Siding 2 19+47
5Y25 21+14 Park Siding 2-London Victoria Pfm 1 22+58
5Y26 23+28 London Victoria Pfm 1-Grosvenor Carriage Shed 23+34

5A16 07+05 Ashford Up Sidings-Ashford International 07+07
2A16 07:11 Ashford International-London Victoria Pfm 2 08:46
5K62 09+13 London Victoria Pfm 2-Victoria Grosvenor Shed 09+19
5N60 17+27 Victoria Grosvenor Shed-London Victoria Pfm 4 17+33
2N60 17:42 London Victoria Pfm 4-Ashford International 19:15
2A64 19:38 Ashford International-London Victoria Pfm 8 21:07
Units divide
2N76 21:22 London Victoria Pfm 8-Ashford International 22:56
5N76 23+00 Ashford International-Ashford Hitachi Depot 23+23
2N80 22:22 London Victoria Pfm 8-Ashford International 23+56
5N80 23+59 Ashford International-Ashford Hitachi Depot 00+20

Works Thameslink in the AM Peak.
5B93 16+45 Bellingham Sidings-London Blackfriars 3 17+09
1F93 17:47 London Blackfriars Pfm 3-Ashford International 19:30
5F93 19+34 Ashford International-Ashford Hitachi Depot South Sidings 19+57
 

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Here is a few diagrams that could be put in. I only know the weekday diagrams.

London Midland 170+153 on the Snow Hill lines.

12:51 WOS-WTE 14:07
14:19 WTE-WOF 15:39
16:13 WOF-DDG 17:48
18:03 DDG-SBJ 19:00

WOS - Worcester Shrub Hill
WTE - Whitlocks End
WOF - Worcester Foregate Street
DDG - Dorridge
SBJ - Stourbridge Junction
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Does anyone know what the diagrams are for the 150 on the Bletchley to Bedford corridor?

Thanks!
 

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Here are some which I though might be of some interest on Southeastern.

Class 377

Monday to Friday

Diagrams 1 & 2
2K91 RTR 0728 – BFR 0835
1B90 BMS 0932 – VIC 0951

Diagrams 3 & 4
1A91 AFK 0532 – BFR 0705
1F95 BFR 0719 – MDE 0830
1F97 MDE 0845 – BFR 0951
1H90 CHX 1620 – HGS 1748

Diagram 5
2A16 AFK 0711 – VIC 0846
2N60 VIC 1742 – AFK 1915
2A64 AFK 1938 – VIC 2107
2N76 VIC 2122 – AFK 2256

Diagram 6
2A16 AFK 0711 – VIC 0846
2N60 VIC 1742 – AFK 1915
2A64 AFK 1938 – VIC 2107
2N80 VIC 2222 – AFK 2356

Diagrams 7 & 8
1F93 BFR 1747 – AFK 1930

Saturday
No service

Sunday
No service

AFK = Ashford International
BFR = London Blackfriars
CHX = London Charing Cross
HGS = Hastings
MDE = Maidstone East
RTR = Rochester
VIC = London Victoria

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Class 465/9 via Maidstone East

Monday to Friday

2N06 VIC 0555 – AFK 0734
2N12 VIC 0752 – AFK 0927
2N20 VIC 0852 – AFK 1021 (466 leading)
2N22 VIC 0922 – CBW 1125 (466 detach AFK)
2N32 VIC 1152 – AFK 1321
2N34 VIC 1222 – CBW 1425
2N36 VIC 1252 – AFK 1421 (466 leading)
2N38 VIC 1322 – CBW 1525 (466 detach AFK)
2N42 VIC 1422 – CBW 1625
2N48 VIC 1552 – AFK 1725
2N52 VIC 1652 – AFK 1827 (466 leading)
1N56 VIC 1712 – AFK 1841 (466 leading)
1F92 VIC 1728 – MDE 1838 (466 leading)
1F94 VIC 1803 – MDE 1913 (466 leading)
1F64 VIC 1818 – AFK 1953 (466 leading)
2N66 VIC 1842 – AFK 2016 (466 tailing)
1F97 BFR 1904 – AFK 2040
2N68 VIC 1922 – CBW 2125
2N70 VIC 1952 – AFK 2120
2N74 VIC 2052 – AFK 2220

2A06 AFK 0547 – VIC 0721
2A08 AFK 0601 – VIC 0741
1F93 AFK 0624 – BFR 0804 (466 tailing)
1A14 AFK 0656 – VIC 0835 (466 tailing)
2A18 AFK 0748 – VIC 0922
2A26 AFK 1010 – VIC 1137
2A30 AFK 1110 – VIC 1237 (466 tailing)
2A36 CBW 1206 – VIC 1407
2A42 AFK 1410 – VIC 1537
2A46 AFK 1510 – VIC 1637
2A48 CBW 1506 – VIC 1707 (466 attach AFK)
2A52 CBW 1606 – VIC 1807 (466 attach AFK)
2A56 CBW 1706 – VIC 1907
2A58 AFK 1802 – VIC 1937
2A62 AFK 1900 – VIC 2037 (466 tailing)
2A66 AFK 2002 – VIC 2137 (466 tailing)
2A68 AFK 2032 – VIC 2207 (466 leading)
2A72 AFK 2132 – VIC 2307
2A76 AFK 2232 – VIC 0007 (466 tailing)

Saturday

2N14 VIC 0722 – CBW 0925
2N18 VIC 0822 – CBW 1025
2N34 VIC 1222 – CBW 1425
2N38 VIC 1322 – CBW 1525
2N58 VIC 1822 – CBW 2025
2N70 VIC 2122 – AFK 2257

2A08 AFK 0532 – VIC 0707
2A12 AFK 0638 – VIC 0807
2A28 CBW 1006 – VIC 1207
2A32 CBW 1106 – VIC 1307
2A52 CBW 1606 – VIC 1807

Sunday

No service

AFK = Ashford International
BFR = London Blackfriars
CBW = Canterbury West
MDE = Maidstone East
VIC = London Victoria
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Class 465/9 via Headcorn

Monday to Friday

2R90 CHX 1657 – FKC 1843 (465/9+466)

Saturday

No service

Sunday

No service

CHX = London Charing Cross
FKC = Folkestone Central

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Class 465/9 via Faversham

Monday to Friday

1S08 VIC 0622 – DVP 0836
2K06 VIC 0734 – DVP 0940
2K14 VIC 0934 – DVP 1137
2K18 VIC 1134 – DVP 1337
2K20 VIC 1234 – DVP 1437
2K44 VIC 2034 – CBE 2220 (466+465/9)
2K46 VIC 2134 – CBE 2320
2K48 VIC 2234 – FAV 0005 (465/9+466)

1G87 FAV 0607 – CST 0726 (466+465/9+465/9)
2K66 DVP 0852 – VIC 1053
2K68 DVP 0952 – VIC 1153
2K72 DVP 1152 – VIC 1353
2K76 DVP 1352 – VIC 1553
2K78 DVP 1452 – VIC 1653

Saturday

1S06 VIC 0522 – DVP 0728
2K08 VIC 0634 – DVP 0839
2K12 VIC 0834 – DVP 1037
2K16 VIC 1034 – DVP 1237 (2x465/9)
2K18 VIC 1134 – DVP 1337
2K22 VIC 1334 – DVP 1537
2K26 VIC 1534 – DVP 1737 (2x465/9)
2K28 VIC 1634 – DVP 1837
2K30 VIC 1734 – DVP 1937
2K32 VIC 1834 – DVP 2037
2K38 VIC 2034 – CBE 2220
2K46 VIC 2234 – FAV 0008

2K62 DVP 0752 – VIC 0953
2K64 DVP 0852 – VIC 1053
2K68 DVP 1052 – VIC 1253
2K72 DVP 1252 – VIC 1453 (2x465/9)
2K74 DVP 1352 – VIC 1553
2K78 DVP 1552 – VIC 1753
2K82 DVP 1752 – VIC 1953 (2x465/9)
2K84 DVP 1852 – VIC 2053
2K52 DVP 2006 – VIC 2223
2K86 FAV 2021 – VIC 2153
2K54 DVP 2106 – VIC 2323

Sunday

2K16 GLM 0815 – CBE 0852 (2x465/9)
2K20 VIC 0804 – CBE 0952
2K24 VIC 0904 – CBE 1052
2K32 VIC 1104 – CBE 1252
2K36 VIC 1204 – CBE 1352
2K40 VIC 1304 – CBE 1452
2K48 VIC 1504 – CBE 1652
2K52 VIC 1604 – CBE 1752
2K56 VIC 1704 – CBE 1852
2K64 VIC 1904 – FAV 2040
2K68 VIC 2004 – FAV 2140
2K72 VIC 2014 – FAV 2240
2K80 VIC 2304 – FAV 0040

2K18 FAV 0716 – VIC 0849
2K26 CBE 0904 – VIC 1049 (2x465/9)
2K30 CBE 1004 – VIC 1149
2K34 CBE 1104 – VIC 1249
2K42 CBE 1304 – VIC 1449
2K46 CBE 1404 – VIC 1549
2K50 CBE 1504 – VIC 1649
2K58 CBE 1704 – VIC 1849
2K62 CBE 1804 – VIC 1949
2K66 CBE 1904 – VIC 2049
2K74 FAV 2116 – VIC 2249
2K78 FAV 2216 – VIC 2349 (2x465/9)

CBE = Canterbury East
CST = London Cannon Street
DVP = Dover Priory
FAV = Faversham
GLM = Gillingham
VIC = London Victoria
 

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Does anybody know the CrossCountry HST diagrams for the next two weekends?

According to real time trains, there are services timed for HSTs south of Taunton on those two days, but I'm not sure how likely it is in reality. Looking to work out a move involving this and an FGW HST to Honiton with the diverts.

I wonder if Rich McLean knows - he's generally pretty knowledgeable with this sort of thing!
 

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Does anyone know what the diagrams are for the 150 on the Bletchley to Bedford corridor?

Thanks!

Yes:

0526Carriage sidings – Bletchley 5S01
0531 Bletchley - Bedford 0615 2S01
0625 Bedford – Bletchley 0608 2S00
0731 Bletchley - Bedford 0815 2S05
0831 Bedford – Bletchley 0914 2S04
1005 Bletchley – Bedford 1049 2S09
1055 Bedford – Bletchley 1138 2S08
1201 Bletchley – Bedford 1245 2S13
1255 Bedford – Bletchley 1338 2S12
1401 Bletchley – Bedford 1445 2S17
1455 Bedford – Bletchley 1538 2S16
1549 Bletchley – Bedford 1633 2S21
1639 Bedford – Bletchley 1722 2S20
1736 Bletchley – Bedford 1820 2S25
1826 Bedford – Bletchley 1909 2S24
2001 Bletchley – Bedford 2045 2S29
2055 Bedford – Bletchley 2138 2S28
2145 Bletchley – Carriage sidings 5B28
 

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Yes:

0526Carriage sidings – Bletchley 5S01
0531 Bletchley - Bedford 0615 2S01
0625 Bedford – Bletchley 0608 2S00
0731 Bletchley - Bedford 0815 2S05
0831 Bedford – Bletchley 0914 2S04
1005 Bletchley – Bedford 1049 2S09
1055 Bedford – Bletchley 1138 2S08
1201 Bletchley – Bedford 1245 2S13
1255 Bedford – Bletchley 1338 2S12
1401 Bletchley – Bedford 1445 2S17
1455 Bedford – Bletchley 1538 2S16
1549 Bletchley – Bedford 1633 2S21
1639 Bedford – Bletchley 1722 2S20
1736 Bletchley – Bedford 1820 2S25
1826 Bedford – Bletchley 1909 2S24
2001 Bletchley – Bedford 2045 2S29
2055 Bedford – Bletchley 2138 2S28
2145 Bletchley – Carriage sidings 5B28

Thanks mate!
 

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I am currently updating the thread for the summer, if anyone has any information or requests I would be delighted to hear them :)

Any news on Scotrail loco hauled & Cumbrian loco hauled, as would updates to the normal stuff: GC HSTs LM 150s & 321s, Chiltern loco-hauled & 121, FGW 180s, Southern 442s to Brighton.

Adam :D
 
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I'm really sorry, they are just too hard to get hold of. If anyone can find them I will put them in :D

Fair enough, thanks for trying though :)

Don't think there's really much else I need diagrams for to be honest, although I will be referring to the stuff you've recently updated (ScotRail 68s for example) later this year. As always, it's greatly appreciated!
 

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Fair enough, thanks for trying though :)

Don't think there's really much else I need diagrams for to be honest, although I will be referring to the stuff you've recently updated (ScotRail 68s for example) later this year. As always, it's greatly appreciated!

Don't take the Fife Circle diagrams as gospel just yet, as we can see here they are not all running atm. Be careful, don't want to dissapoint you with dodgy gen.

Adam :D
 

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TPE Class 156s
5U53 0619 Blackpool North Car MD - Blackpool North 0624
1U53 0635 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 0817
1N56 0825 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 1003
1U61 1040 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 1215
1N62 1229 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 1404
1U69 1440 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 1621
1N66 1629 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 1805
1U77 1843 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 2023
1N72 2029 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 2203
1U86 2245 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 0026
5K86 0027 Manchester Airport - Manchester Piccadilly 0043

5N63 0553 Manchester Piccadilly - Manchester Airport 0607
1N53 0618 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 0756
1U57 0840 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 1017
1N59 1029 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 1209
1U65 1240 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 1417
1N64 1429 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 1609
1U73 1636 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 1817
1N69 1829 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 2007
1U81 2042 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 2218
1N76 2229 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 0004
5U76 0009 Blackpool North - Blackpool North Car MD 0014

5U54 0655 Blackpool North Car MD - Blackpool North 0700
1U54 0717 Blackpool North - Manchester Oxford Road 0827
1C51 0831 Manchester Oxford Road - Barrow 1054
1N31 1113 Barrow - Blackpool North 1311
1N67 1336 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 1515
1N65 1529 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 1708
1U74 1720 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 1852
1N71 1929 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 2105
1U84 2134 Blackpool North - Manchester Airport 2316
1N30 2330 Manchester Airport - Blackpool North 0100
5N30 0110 Blackpool North - Blackpool North Car MD 0115
 

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Does anyone have details of current class 315 workings to both Southend Vic and Hertford East?

Presumably these will cease from the May timetable change, as the 315s will be allocated only to diagrams used by TfL Rail on the Shenfield line and London Overground on the West Anglia lines.
 

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The timings of the 10:04 Preston to Barrow have now been amended to allow for the fact that it's going to be loco hauled.
The new arrival time at Barrow is 11:33 (was 11:28)
Still a connection into the 11:38 to Carlisle.
 

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387 diagrams.

From Tuesday 07/04/2015.

301/302
1W04 05:44 Brighton to Bedford
2W23 08:40 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W30 11:14 Three Bridges to Bedford
2W43 13:40 Bedford to Three Bridges
1W92 16:14 Three Bridges to Bedford
1W57 18:24 Bedford to Brighton
1W68 21:30 Brighton to Bedford

303/304
1H83 06:34 Bedford to Beckenham Junction
1G63 08:02 Beckenham Junction to Bedford
1W21 09:54 Bedford to Brighton
1W32 12:38 Brighton to Bedford
1W43 15:24 Bedford to Brighton
1B50 18:28 Brighton to London Bridge
1B55 19:42 London Bridge to Brighton
1W66 21:02 Brighton to Bedford

305/306
1W01 04:16 Bedford to Brighton
1W83 07:24 Brighton to Bedford
1W23 10:24 Bedford to Brighton
1W34 13:08 Brighton to Bedford
1W45 16:46 Bedford to Brighton
1W56 18:38 Brighton to Bedford
1W69 21:22 Bedford to Brighton

307/308
1W00 05:10 Brighton to Bedford
1J88 07:58 Bedford to Elephant & Castle
1G69 10:04 Elephant & Castle to Bedford
1W29 11:54 Bedford to Brighton
1W40 14:38 Brighton to Bedford
2W61 17:20 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W62 19:44 Three Bridges to Bedford

309/310
2W87 01:42 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W92 04:16 Three Bridges to Bedford
1W84 06:54 Bedford to Brighton
1B14 09:28 Brighton to London Bridge
1B19 10:42 London Bridge to Brighton
1B24 11:56 Brighton to London Bridge
1B29 13:12 London Bridge to Brighton
1B36 14:56 Brighton to London Bridge
1B41 16:12 London Bridge to Brighton
1W97 17:38 Brighton to Bedford
1W73 22:22 Bedford to Brighton


311/312
2W93 03:12 Bedford to Brighton
1W08 06:22 Brighton to Bedford
1W19 09:24 Bedford to Brighton
1W30 12:08 Brighton to Bedford
1W41 14:54 Bedford to Brighton
1B48 17:56 Brighton to London Bridge
1B53 19:12 London Bridge to Brighton

313/314
1W03 04:46 Bedford to Brighton
1W14 07:48 Brighton to Bedford
2W31 10:40 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W38 13:14 Three Bridges to Bedford
1H66 15:40 Bedford to Beckenham Junction
1G79 17:30 Beckenham Junction to Bedford
1W61 19:26 Bedford to Brighton
1W72 22:20 Brighton to Bedford

315/316
1W06 06:04 Brighton to Bedford
1W17 08:54 Bedford to Brighton
1W28 11:38 Brighton to Bedford
1W39 14:24 Bedford to Brighton
1B46 17:26 Brighton to London Bridge
1B51 18:42 London Bridge to Brighton
2W64 19:56 Brighton to Bedford
2W79 22:42 Bedford to Three Bridges

317/318
2W84 01:16 Three Bridges to Bedford
1W07 05:58 Bedford to Brighton
1B12 08:56 Brighton to London Bridge
1B17 10:12 London Bridge to Brighton
1B22 11:28 Brighton to London Bridge
1B27 12:42 London Bridge to Brighton
1B38 15:28 Brighton to London Bridge
1B43 16:42 London Bridge to Brighton
1W54 18:06 Brighton to Bedford
1W67 20:52 Bedford to Brighton
2W82 00:10 Brighton to Bedford

319/320
2W03 03:42 Bedford to Brighton
1W81 07:00 Brighton to Bedford
2W27 09:40 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W34 12:14 Three Bridges to Bedford
2W47 14:40 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W52 17:14 Three Bridges to Bedford

321/322
2W19 07:34 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W24 09:44 Three Bridges to Bedford
2W37 12:10 Bedford to Three Bridges
2W44 14:44 Three Bridges to Bedford
1H95 16:59 Bedford to Beckenham Junction
1G63 18:30 Beckenham Junction to Bedford
1W65 20:22 Bedford to Brighton
2W80 23:36 Brighton to Bedford
 

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Does anyone have any info on the LM 321s, Southern 442s to Brighton or Chiltern 121s? I cannot find updates anywhere.

Adam :)
 
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