GWR were planning on running extra non stop services between Reading and Basingstoke and vice versa for this mornings peak. Presume tickets will be valid from Basingstoke to London via Reading and Paddington.
"Partial derailment" probably means that only a small percentage of the train came off the rails. Designed to reassure us that it isn't a major incident.
Not too keen on deviating from the subject, but isn't Potters Bar a partial derailment by definition (only the rear coaches derailed)?
Platforms 20 to 24 blocked due to a points failure
I was sure they were advising people not to travel yesterday and that it extended into today. However maybe the advice was not to travel yesterday but the problems will continue until end of service today.No one is saying don't travel, however disruption is likely so plan accordingly if you need to. The residual impact from today will likely be felt tomorrow, especially in the morning peak, due to stock and crew displacement, etc.
You then also have the complication of a reduction in capacity as stated above, with likely cancellations.
I was sure they were advising people not to travel yesterday and that it extended into today. However maybe the advice was not to travel yesterday but the problems will continue until end of service today.
UPDATE - We now strongly advise customers not to travel on our network today or tomorrow
Unlikely to be described as such — the phrase was not chosen for its technical accuracy but for its euphemistic properties.
I notice it's not just "partial derailment" but "partial train derailment".
All seems a little silly to me - "due to a derailment..." would have been quite adequate, as would "due to a minor derailment..." if they were really desperate to try to limit bad publicity.
Actually, I'd have said collision was unfortunately a more accurate descriptor of what happened, but there we go.
The link isn't work now or at least not ib my 9.7" tablet.They're still recording images if you just tweak the URL a little.
Latest shot - looks like they've rerailed the train.
The link isn't work now or at least not ib my 9.7" tablet.
The arguments over "derailment or collision" are really covering up the fact that if the passenger train left under clear signals when the points were not correctly set, then a MAJOR signalling problem occurred. Had the train on the opposite line been an incomming passenger train rather than a stationary ballast train, then all the words would have been correct and not enough. A very lucky escape is what I would call it.
The arguments over "derailment or collision" are really covering up the fact that if the passenger train left under clear signals when the points were not correctly set, then a MAJOR signalling problem occurred. Had the train on the opposite line been an incomming passenger train rather than a stationary ballast train, then all the words would have been correct and not enough. A very lucky escape is what I would call it.
The arguments over "derailment or collision" are really covering up the fact that if the passenger train left under clear signals when the points were not correctly set, then a MAJOR signalling problem occurred. Had the train on the opposite line been an incomming passenger train rather than a stationary ballast train, then all the words would have been correct and not enough. A very lucky escape is what I would call it.
Will the 'unrelated' signalling problem in the area actually have had some sort of effect?
The arguments over "derailment or collision" are really covering up the fact that if the passenger train left under clear signals when the points were not correctly set, then a MAJOR signalling problem occurred. Had the train on the opposite line been an incomming passenger train rather than a stationary ballast train, then all the words would have been correct and not enough. A very lucky escape is what I would call it.
Or someone or something has affected the Signalling System mores the point........
Unless the signalling design has been changed for the possession, which is doubtful IMHO, then an action has been carried out to defeat the protection designed within the signalling system to stop this very problem.......
I think it's possible to get a bit carried away by the "what ifs...?" There wasn't another moving train and nobody was injured.
Definitely a case of over-speculation here. It could just as easily have been a poorly-maintained bogie pranging the points mechanism as it went past.
Definitely a case of over-speculation here. It could just as easily have been a poorly-maintained bogie pranging the points mechanism as it went past.
Definitely a case of over-speculation here. It could just as easily have been a poorly-maintained bogie pranging the points mechanism as it went past.
Or maybe not?
The unit has since been hidden from public view as there is some ugly looking damage to the cabside, I imagine it'll be left for First to sort out the repair!
I think this thread might need to be locked for the time being, as a lot of people in the know, know what took place but not why and it will save them accidentally breaking their respective companies social media policies, until such time as RAIB release a bulletin or full report.
The link isn't work now or at least not ib my 9.7" tablet.
Yeah, they seem to have removed all the images from camera 12 for the 15/08 from their site.
Guess they're gonna cut that 'embarrassing'(!) part out of the eventual time lapse!
Images from other days are available.