1644 London Liverpool Street - Clacton-on-Sea

[SprinterMan]

Does the 1644 London Liverpool Street - Clacton-on-Sea still detach a Harwich Town portion at Colchester?

Adam

 

[sonic2009]

On which day?

 

[SprinterMan]

On which day?

Mon-Fri
It always used to detach a portion to Harwich Town at Colchester departing from there at 1747, but since December 2011, this is no longer shown in timetables for some reason. Timetables 2 has led me to believe this is now operated as a separate train, but I am unsure. This is the last timetable to show it being split, all timetables after this no longer show splitting trains.
It still waits at Colchester for 4 mins so a set could be detached, and I'm sure I have seen it on the boards in London as to Clacton & Harwich Town.

Adam

 

[Searle]

If it helps, on Timetables 2 it shows that the 1744 to Clacton waits on platform 1 for four minutes, before leaving. Then the 1747 to Harwich leaves from platform 1 as well (just three minutes later), with no indication of how it got there. Seems like it still splits to me, but I have no knowledge apart from what I can see on Timetables 2.

Here's the page I'm looking at on Timetables 2, for reference :P

 

[15MPHMAX]

Yes it does split at Colchester. I think we're booked in at 17:39, the front 8 coaches go to Clacton and the rear four coaches go to Harwich at 17:47 following the 17:00 to Norwich which doesn't stop at Colchester.

 

[flymo]

It is still shown as splitting in Table 11 of the current NRTT.

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[Broadside]

Does the 1644 London Liverpool Street - Clacton-on-Sea still detach a Harwich Town portion at Colchester?

Sure does. And still contains many travellers who don't know if they're in the "front 8" or the "rear 4".

I take it the Class 360 PIS can't show different messages per unit? ie "This carriage is for Harwich Town" etc.

EDIT: Actually I think it might well do now. It's the splitting 1708 LST-Clacton/Colchester Town Class 321 that definitely doesn't.

 

[SprinterMan]

I'm glad it still runs, as it is Mistley/Wrabness/Dovercourt/Harwich Town's only p.m. direct service from London. National rail show it as 2 separate trains though, as does the trainline and open access sites whereas other splitting trains are shown as direct to both destinations.
Any info as to why?

Adam

 

[15MPHMAX]

The PIS code doesn't work for this service, it has been faulted but still not been rectified.

 

[SprinterMan]

The PIS code doesn't work for this service, it has been faulted but still not been rectified.

What's a PIS code, and what's wrong with it :P

 

[slick]

Passenger/Public Information System. Driver enters a code into a PIS interface in the cab and the train should then do automatic announcemts enroute of the trains progess aswell as internal scrolling displays and the destination indicator on the front and sometimes on the side of the train.

 

[SprinterMan]

Passenger/Public Information System. Driver enters a code into a PIS interface in the cab and the train should then do automatic announcemts enroute of the trains progess aswell as internal scrolling displays and the destination indicator on the front and sometimes on the side of the train.

Oh right, thanks

Why/how is the 1644's broken?
Adam

 

[15MPHMAX]

For some reason the PIS code doesn't work for this service and hasn't ever as far as I know. Personally I just do manual announcement when safe to do so. Hopefully they can get it fixed sooner rather than later.

 

[SprinterMan]

For some reason the PIS code doesn't work for this service and hasn't ever as far as I know. Personally I just do manual announcement when safe to do so. Hopefully they can get it fixed sooner rather than later.

How strange, what does the PIS say then? Is it off?

Adam

 

[15MPHMAX]

In reagrd to the PIS code it just comes up incorrect number, then we have to do manual announcements.

 

[SprinterMan]

In reagrd to the PIS code it just comes up incorrect number, then we have to do manual announcements.

Oh ok, thanks

Moved from other post:
Why don't they show splitting trains in the timetables anymore (NXEA/GA's, not NR's) and why does Open Train Times/National Rail show them as separate trains?

Adam