1st Class on Northern?

[trainophile]

I'm sure this has been answered already, but where a service (in this case Manchester Picc to Blackpool North) offers 1st Class, does this mean it is an ex-TPE train?

Edit: I'm guessing not, as it is giving me Coach F.

Puzzled

 

[swt class 450]

I'm sure this has been answered already, but where a service (in this case Manchester Picc to Blackpool North) offers 1st Class, does this mean it is an ex-TPE train?

Edit: I'm guessing not, as it is giving me Coach F.

Puzzled

Im not too sure either but i imagine that it would be worked by a class 185 unit.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Yes, it will be Class 185 worked, to get a coach F it'd need to be diagrammed a 6 car.

Irritatingly Northern do not offer Weekend First, FWIW.

 

[trainophile]

Yes, it will be Class 185 worked, to get a coach F it'd need to be diagrammed a 6 car.

Irritatingly Northern do not offer Weekend First, FWIW.

Thanks both. So on a weekday would there be TPE-type offerings?

 

[ainsworth74]

I don't believe so.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I don't believe so.

There were on the Barrow line when I used it shortly after transfer to Northern from TPE (on a 1st Advance). The service was basically identical to TPE days, with freebies etc.

 

[trainophile]

Well I'll be on it on Friday - I'll let you know!

 

[Merseysider]

There were on the Barrow line when I used it shortly after transfer to Northern from TPE (on a 1st Advance). The service was basically identical to TPE days, with freebies etc.

Interesting, were these Northern or TPE catering staff?

 

[trainophile]

On 185123. No refreshments .

 

[Bletchleyite]

Interesting, were these Northern or TPE catering staff?

I genuinely can't remember, but I would assume a contractor as most trolleys are. TPE don't run them in house, do they? I thought it was only ScotRail, ATW (?) and XC that did.

 

[bb21]

ATW don't. They had the cheek to exploit a loophole and shaft their catering staff badly.

 

[Starmill]

These services are booked with catering www.brtimes.com/#!board?stn=MAN&filt=BPN&date=20161003

But apart from the comment in this thread I have not ever heard anyone suggest it's actually available.

 

[trainophile]

I was actually coming back from BPN to MAN in 1st, timings didn't work out on my way up.

I asked the guard, and he told me that none of the Northern services have catering on that route. Oh well, it was only a few quid dearer than Standard, and I had a table to myself all the way .